- From: Atsushi Shimono (W3C Team) <atsushi@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2020 22:43:30 +0900
- To: public-i18n-japanese@w3.org
村田さま、みなさま i18n WGとしては(というと責任逃れにも聞こえますが、わたしも含めてで)、アクセシビリティの部分は 重要だけど、文書のリリースとして完成度や情報収集・議論の段階を考えると別ドキュメントとして作成 していくべきだ、というところです。 ということで、抜いた後、別文書(や何らかのstudy noteなどのまとめ的なのを含め)の形で継続してい ければと思っているところなのですが、いかがでしょうか。 よろしくお願いいたします On 2020/04/03 13:09, MURATA Makoto wrote: > 私も、この文書からルビのアクセシビリティを抜くことに同意 > します。 > > 村田 真 > > 2020年4月3日(金) 12:58 Kobayashi Toshi <binn@k.email.ne.jp <mailto:binn@k.email.ne.jp>>: > > 木田泰夫 様 > みなさま > > 小林敏です > > “Rules for Simple Placement of Ruby”の最後の“4. Ruby and Acc > essibility”は，前半とは扱う内容がかなり異なりますし，ルビとアク > セシビリティの問題は，さらに議論しないといけないと思いますの > で，“Rules for Simple Placement of Ruby”から，とりあえず削除することは同意いたします． > > 以上です． > > 木田泰夫 さん wrote > > > JLReq members, > > > > みなさまお久しぶりです。コロナウイルスみが身近に忍び寄る感じの今日この頃、皆さまいかがお過ごしでしょうか。 > > > > さて、先週末の i18n WG ミーティングにおいて Simple Ruby が話題に出たようです。その中でリチャードから、これを成果物にするに当たって、レポジトリを分けたほうが管理しやすいのではないかとの提案があり、どないや？とのメールが来ています。 > > > > 直接には Florian に来ているので Florian が返答するのが良いのかと思いますが、村田さん、その他の方々特にインプットはありますか？ > > > > 木田 > > > > # しばらく仕事をしていませんね。やりましょう。メール出します。 > > > > # 下に、そのミーティングの関連する部分をペーストしておきます。 > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > Subject: [minutes] Internationalization telecon 2020-03-26 > > Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2020 16:13:09 +0000 > > Resent-From: www-international@w3.org <mailto:www-international@w3.org> > > Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2020 16:12:52 +0000 > > From: r12a <ishida@w3.org <mailto:ishida@w3.org>> > > To: www-international@w3.org <mailto:www-international@w3.org> > > > > > > > > https://www.w3.org/2020/03/26-i18n-minutes.html > > > > > > > > > > rules for simple placement of ruby > > > > <r12a> > > [24]https://w3c.github.io/jlreq/docs/simple-ruby/index.html > > > > [24]https://w3c.github.io/jlreq/docs/simple-ruby/index.html > > > > richard: this small document is potentially useful > > ... doesn't cover ruby in dramatic depth such as JLReq > > ... jsut the salient bits > > ... here's one way of doing that > > ... there have been some editorial comments twice > > ... one thing I feel strongly about > > ... section at end > > ... things I am not sure I agree with > > ... doesn't fit with overall doc > > ... was maybe an afterthought? > > ... there is a lot more to say about ruby and a11y > > ... good to have written up > > ... and not add here > > ... would suggest that when published, publish without section > > 4 on accessibility > > ... and maybe make a new doc for that > > > > <atsushi> +1 > > > > addison: need to know disposition? > > > > richard: florian recommends that we publish as a note > > ... think I agree > > ... it's nicely done in respec and could have japanese in it > > > > addison: would want wide review? > > > > richard: suggest we review for next week and decide what next > > steps should be > > > > <scribe> ACTION: addison: remind WG to review rules for simple > > placement of ruby for next week's telecon > > > > <trackbot> Created ACTION-879 - Remind wg to review rules for > > simple placement of ruby for next week's telecon [on Addison > > Phillips - due 2020-04-02]. > > > > atsushi: murata-san is getting updated requirements from JP > > point of view, esp. publishing > > ... including accessibility > > ... interviewed many people, gained insight > > ... support to separate accessibility section > > ... another point; after publishing (inaudible) PDF doc > > ... many updated but not motivation to update document > > ... update just english version for now? > > > > richard: can we change the japanese version anyway? > > > > atsushi: one concern; updating japanese version would be > > reverse translation into japanese doc > > ... not sure how specifically > > > > richard: little change would be needed? fuqiao already produced > > interleaved version > > > > atsushi: in discussion of jlreq group, not supported for > > combined document > > ... just english > > > > addison: where would be put removed a11y material? > > > > atsushi: murata/makoto-san doing research > > ... such kind of update could be put in that section > > ... it's on-goign activity > > ... splitting doc into two > > > > addison: new doc "requirements for ruby accessibility"? > > > > richard: just make a doc for it in the repo > > > > <r12a> > > [25]https://github.com/w3c/jlreq/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ > > label%3Asimple-ruby > > > > [25]https://github.com/w3c/jlreq/issues?q=is:issue+is:open+label:simple-ruby > > > > <scribe> ACTION: richard: ask florian about splitting the > > accessibility material from "rules for simple..." in prep for > > taking doc to Note > > > > <trackbot> Created ACTION-880 - Ask florian about splitting the > > accessibility material from "rules for simple..." in prep for > > taking doc to note [on Richard Ishida - due 2020-04-02]. > > > > richard: there are open issues at link > > ... one practical thing > > ... if you follow links, the commit history points to wrong doc > > and similarly PRs > > > > <scribe> ACTION: richard: set up simple-ruby repo > > > > <trackbot> Created ACTION-881 - Set up simple-ruby repo [on > > Richard Ishida - due 2020-04-02]. > > ――――――――――――――――――――― > 小林 敏（toshi） 2020年 4月 3日 > e-mail: binn@k.email.ne.jp <mailto:binn@k.email.ne.jp> > ――――――――――――――――――――― > > > > -- > Regards, > Makoto
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