- From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 10:06:42 +0900
- To: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
- Cc: Jirka Kosek <jirka@kosek.cz>, public-i18n-its@w3.org
sorry, wrong issue number. This update relates to issue http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4152 . Felix Felix Sasaki wrote: > Hi Jirka, all, > > As announced at > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JanMar/0081.html > , I changed the local ITS markup at ruby etc. to be in no namespace. The > summary of the changes is at > http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/itstagset.html#selection-local > , the paragraph after example 15: > "Markup for local selection is defined as follows. The attribute group > att.local.no-ns.attributes contains ITS attributes in no namespace and > is used with the ITS elements span, locNote, ruby, rb, rt, rbc, rtc and > rp. The attribute group att.local.with-ns.attributes contains namespace > qualified ITS attributes and is used with elements from different > namespaces." > > This change leads to one change for the test suite. See > http://www.w3.org/International/its/tests/inputdata/LocNote4.xml , where > we had a namespace qualified ITS attribute at <its:span> . Sebastian, > Yves, you will see two errors for your implementation, could you regenerate? > > Jirka, all: Please look at these changes before the meeting so that we > will be able to vote for transition. > > Many thanks, > > Felix > > > > Felix Sasaki wrote: >> Hi Jirka, all >> >> I think you formulated two proposals here which are relevant for the >> tagset draft: >> >> - Should we have only non-namespace attributes at its:ruby? >> - Should we have no namespace attributes at its:span? >> >> Both would be fine with me, but we need to decide this rather soon. What >> do others think? >> >> I would propose that I make this change in the ODD file if nobody >> disagrees until Monday evening 23:00 hour (JST). >> >> Jirka Kosek wrote: >>> Felix Sasaki wrote: >>> >>>>>> We could say "use the HTML markup instead of ITS", but what to do for >>>>>> the "nested case" (e.g. the "its:locNote" element contains a "dir" >>>>>> attribute). >>>>> What is the problem here? Could you explain it more or provide example. >>>> I'm wondering what to do with. s.t like <html:p><its:ruby >>>> html:dir="rtl"> . Is this desirable, or should it be <its:ruby >>>> dir="rtl"> or <its:ruby its:dir="rtl"> ? >>> To me it seems that <its:ruby dir="rtl"> is the most natural option. >>> >>> ITS markup will be primarily consumed by CAT software and such software >>> doesn't have to understand to HTML markup (html:dir in this situation). >>> Moreover I think that such usage of HTML attributes is not very common, >>> although I recall that I have already seen some W3C proposal for this. >>> >>> Also <its:ruby its:dir="rtl"> is in my opinion wrong, because its:dir >>> attribute should be used only on non-ITS elements where it is necessary >>> to qualify the attribute. >>> >>> The problem is that the current schema allows ony the <its:ruby >>> its:dir="rtl"> variant which is wrong IMHO. I think that on <its:ruby> >>> just nonamespaced attributes should be allowed. >>> >>> I also checked its:span element because I thought that recent changes to >>> its:span could affected its:ruby also. The its:span >>> (http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/itstagset.html#span) now >>> allows both variants -- namespaced and non-namespaced attributes. My >>> understanding of changes on which we agreed week ago is that only >>> non-namespaced attributes should be allowed on its:span. >> I had a different understanding, but as said above I'm fine with your >> proposal as well. >> >> Regards, Felix. >> >>> Please don't call me namespaced attributes troublemaker :-( >>> >>> Jirka
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