- From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 10:03:37 +0900
- To: Jirka Kosek <jirka@kosek.cz>
- Cc: public-i18n-its@w3.org
Hi Jirka, all, As announced at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JanMar/0081.html , I changed the local ITS markup at ruby etc. to be in no namespace. The summary of the changes is at http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/itstagset.html#selection-local , the paragraph after example 15: "Markup for local selection is defined as follows. The attribute group att.local.no-ns.attributes contains ITS attributes in no namespace and is used with the ITS elements span, locNote, ruby, rb, rt, rbc, rtc and rp. The attribute group att.local.with-ns.attributes contains namespace qualified ITS attributes and is used with elements from different namespaces." This change leads to one change for the test suite. See http://www.w3.org/International/its/tests/inputdata/LocNote4.xml , where we had a namespace qualified ITS attribute at <its:span> . Sebastian, Yves, you will see two errors for your implementation, could you regenerate? Jirka, all: Please look at these changes before the meeting so that we will be able to vote for transition. Many thanks, Felix Felix Sasaki wrote: > Hi Jirka, all > > I think you formulated two proposals here which are relevant for the > tagset draft: > > - Should we have only non-namespace attributes at its:ruby? > - Should we have no namespace attributes at its:span? > > Both would be fine with me, but we need to decide this rather soon. What > do others think? > > I would propose that I make this change in the ODD file if nobody > disagrees until Monday evening 23:00 hour (JST). > > Jirka Kosek wrote: >> Felix Sasaki wrote: >> >>>>> We could say "use the HTML markup instead of ITS", but what to do for >>>>> the "nested case" (e.g. the "its:locNote" element contains a "dir" >>>>> attribute). >>>> What is the problem here? Could you explain it more or provide example. >>> I'm wondering what to do with. s.t like <html:p><its:ruby >>> html:dir="rtl"> . Is this desirable, or should it be <its:ruby >>> dir="rtl"> or <its:ruby its:dir="rtl"> ? >> To me it seems that <its:ruby dir="rtl"> is the most natural option. >> >> ITS markup will be primarily consumed by CAT software and such software >> doesn't have to understand to HTML markup (html:dir in this situation). >> Moreover I think that such usage of HTML attributes is not very common, >> although I recall that I have already seen some W3C proposal for this. >> >> Also <its:ruby its:dir="rtl"> is in my opinion wrong, because its:dir >> attribute should be used only on non-ITS elements where it is necessary >> to qualify the attribute. >> >> The problem is that the current schema allows ony the <its:ruby >> its:dir="rtl"> variant which is wrong IMHO. I think that on <its:ruby> >> just nonamespaced attributes should be allowed. >> >> I also checked its:span element because I thought that recent changes to >> its:span could affected its:ruby also. The its:span >> (http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/itstagset.html#span) now >> allows both variants -- namespaced and non-namespaced attributes. My >> understanding of changes on which we agreed week ago is that only >> non-namespaced attributes should be allowed on its:span. > > I had a different understanding, but as said above I'm fine with your > proposal as well. > > Regards, Felix. > >> Please don't call me namespaced attributes troublemaker :-( >> >> Jirka >> > > >
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