Re: Possible wording for acknowledged but yet uncovered requirement related to non-textual content

Yves Savourel wrote:
> Sound good to me.
> One note: "The ITS translate and localize data categories " should be
"The ITS translatability data category " since we don't have
> 'localize' yet and I think we used 'translatability' rather than
'translate' for the data cat name.

that is a valid point, I would change that.

- Felix

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> -ys
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-i18n-its-request@w3.org
[mailto:public-i18n-its-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Felix Sasaki
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 3:05 AM
> To: Sebastian Rahtz
> Cc: Lieske, Christian; public-i18n-its@w3.org
> Subject: Re: Possible wording for acknowledged but yet uncovered
requirement related to non-textual content
>
> I like this. Christians text sounds like a requirement, which fits
good into the requirements document. Sebastians text is a
> clarification about what we can't achieve in the moment, which fits in
the tagset document.
>
> There is only one drawback about the example:
>
> <p xmlns:its="http://www.w3.org/2005/11/its">As you can see in
>     <img src="instructions.jpg" its:translate="yes"/>,
>     the truth is not always out there.</p>
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> The default selection says that local its:translate attributes talk
about "Textual content of element, including content of child
> elements, but excluding attributes", see
http://www.w3.org/TR/its/#selection-defaults-etc
> So the its:translate attribute in the example doesn't attach ITS
translatability information to the @src attribute.
>
> An solution would be a global rule:
>
> <its:rules><its:translateRule translate="yes"
> selector="//p/img/@src"/></its:rules> ...
> <p xmlns:its="http://www.w3.org/2005/11/its">As you can see in
>     <img src="instructions.jpg" its:translate="yes"/>,
>     the truth is not always out there.</p>
>
> Everybody fine with that? If nobody disagrees, I would change the example.
>
> - Felix
>
> Sebastian Rahtz wrote:
>> I propose this as a placeholder:
>>
>> <p>The selection of the ITS data categories applies to text nodes. In
>> some cases these nodes form pointers to other resources; a well-known
>> example is the <att>src</att> attribute on the <gi>img</gi> element in
>> HTML. The ITS translate and localize data categories apply to the text
>> of the pointer itself, not the object to which it points. Thus in this
>> example:
>>   <egXML xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/Examples">
>>     <p xmlns:its="http://www.w3.org/2005/11/its">As you can see in
>>     <img src="instructions.jpg" its:translate="yes"/>,
>>     the truth is not always out there.</p>
>>   </egXML>
>> the translation information applies to the filename
>> "instructions.jpg", and is not an instruction to open the graphic and
>> change the words therein.</p>
>>
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