RE: Readiness definition

Hi Felix , all,

Ok great! thanks for the help :)

Find answers inline.

Cheers,

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Hi Pablo all,

you cannot have a normative reference to a W3C NOTE. If you want to have full interop between date time values you need to do what XML Schema did - refer to a date / time definition informatively, but define the lexical space explicitly, see e.g.
http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlschema-2/#dateTime

[PNC]: Ok I've changed the text https://www.w3.org/International/its/wiki/IssuesAndProposedFeatures#Proposal:_.22Readiness.22_data_category, please take a look as I suspect some things might be still wrong or incomplete, comments are always welcome of course.

Also, unrelated to this thread, this should probably be deleted from the "local" section:

"An readyToProcessRef that contains an absolute selector pointing to an external specification of the processes that should be applied to the content, e.g. an executable workflow specification."

We have no other data category that requires XPath for local selection.

[PNC]: Yes, absolutely I didn't notice, it's removed now.

Best,

Felix

Am 05.02.14 18:23, schrieb Pablo Nieto:
Hi Christian,

I don't have much experience on this, but David's statement seems fair to me, maybe a reference to http://www.w3.org/TR/NOTE-datetime and indicate which format is permitted and which isn't is enough, I don't know what the rest think.

Cheers,
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De: Dr. David Filip [mailto:David.Filip@ul.ie]
Enviado el: miércoles, 05 de febrero de 2014 18:03
Para: Pablo Nieto
CC: Lieske, Christian; public-i18n-its-ig@w3.org<mailto:public-i18n-its-ig@w3.org>; Dave Lewis
Asunto: Re: Re: Readiness definition

Pablo, Christian, I do not think that the IETF RFC should be used as reference.
The purpose of the Note is to provide the web community with simple actionable information and can be normatively referenced, if the formats you find there are enough for your purpose, which seems to be the case here..
Cheers
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On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Pablo Nieto Caride <pablo.nieto@linguaserve.com<mailto:pablo.nieto@linguaserve.com>> wrote:
Hi Christian,

Yes absolutely, as a formal reference to include in the definition is definitely more suitable, I was just mentioning those two not as a reference but as the simple guide to understand the example.

Cheers,
Pablo.


Hi Pablo,

Shouldn't http://tools.ietf.org/search/rfc3339 be considered as alternative or more suitable reference?

Best regards,
Christian

From: Pablo Nieto Caride [mailto:pablo.nieto@linguaserve.com<mailto:pablo.nieto@linguaserve.com>]
Sent: Montag, 16. Dezember 2013 16:24
To: 'Dave Lewis'
Cc: public-i18n-its-ig@w3.org<mailto:public-i18n-its-ig@w3.org>
Subject: RE: Re: Readiness definition

Hi all,

Regarding the action https://www.w3.org/International/its/ig/track/actions/32, I propose the following.

Based on this note http://www.w3.org/TR/NOTE-datetime and on this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601, I suggest we use this format YYYY-MM-DDThh:mmTZD (e.g. 2013-12-16T16:24+01:00 right now in Spain), it's easily readable and parseable.

Here is the meaning:
YYYY = four-digit year
MM   = two-digit month (01=January, etc.)
DD   = two-digit day of month (01 through 31)
hh   = two digits of hour (00 through 23) (am/pm NOT allowed)
mm   = two digits of minute (00 through 59)
ss   = two digits of second (00 through 59)
TZD  = time zone designator (Z for UTC or +hh:mm or -hh:mm)

If you agree I'd change the times in the wiki with the new time format, add an explanation text, a reference and close action-32.

Looking forward to comments.

Cheers,
Pablo.
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De: Pablo Nieto Caride [mailto:pablo.nieto@linguaserve.com]
Enviado el: miércoles, 04 de diciembre de 2013 16:57
Para: 'Dave Lewis' (dave.lewis@cs.tcd.ie<mailto:dave.lewis@cs.tcd.ie>)
CC: public-i18n-its-ig@w3.org<mailto:public-i18n-its-ig@w3.org>
Asunto: Re: Readiness definition

Hi Dave, all,

I've already put the revised text from the Readiness doc into the wiki: http://www.w3.org/International/its/wiki/IssuesAndProposedFeatures#Proposal:_.22Readiness.22_data_category

Now we can work from there. Still a lot of work to be done, but it's a start!

Next week I will try to complete ACTION-587 to check on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601.

Comments and feedback are welcome!

Cheers,
Pablo.
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