- From: Martin Duerst <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>
- Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:20:16 +0900
- To: "Richard Ishida" <ishida@w3.org>, <public-comments-wcag20@w3.org>
- Cc: <public-i18n-core@w3.org>
At 03:00 07/11/17, Richard Ishida wrote: > >Unfortunately, the example shown will produce exactly the wrong result. The >", W3C" text must appear inside the span element to produce the expected >result. > >If you change the example, however, you will run into the problem of how to >show source text in a sensible fashion, since the hebrew is running right to >left, and W3C must run left to right and be positioned to the left. > >I suggest that you describe the source text rather than show it. Eg. "... o >the left of (i.e. after) the Hebrew text. This can be achieved by enclosing >the quote in a span, to which the attribute code dir="rtl" has been added." Another way to show the source text is to split it up into multiple lines. In HTML source, a line break (and surrounding space) is equivalent to a space, but bidi reordering doesn't reorder text across lines. Regards, Martin. >I would also be tempted to show before and after examples, like those I >suggested for >http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007OctDec/0135.html >If you want to do that, and need me to help provide examples and >visually-ordered ascii, let me know. (I didn't do it just in case, because >it takes a while to create them.) > >RI > > >============ >Richard Ishida >Internationalization Lead >W3C (World Wide Web Consortium) > >http://www.w3.org/International/ >http://rishida.net/blog/ >http://rishida.net/ > > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: public-i18n-core-request@w3.org >> [mailto:public-i18n-core-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Richard Ishida >> Sent: 16 November 2007 15:51 >> To: public-i18n-core@w3.org >> Subject: RE: [WCAG2 TECHS] i18n comment 5: H56 source text >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Loretta Guarino Reid [mailto:lorettaguarino@google.com] >> Sent: 04 November 2007 05:09 >> ... >> Please review our resolutions for the following comments, >> and reply to us by 19 November 2007 at >> public-comments-wcag20@w3.org to say whether you are >> satisfied. Note that this list is publicly archived. >> ... >> WCAG 2.0 Editor's Draft of May-October 2007 at >> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/WD-WCAG20-20071102/ >> >> ... >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------- >> > Comment 10: H56: issues with example similar to H34 >> > Source: >> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/200 >> 7Jun/0046.html >> > (Issue ID: 1968) >> > ---------------------------- >> > Original Comment: >> > ---------------------------- >> > >> > Comment from the i18n review of: >> > http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-TECHS-20070517/ >> > >> > Comment 5 >> > At http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/0706-wcag2-techniques/ >> > Editorial/substantive: E >> > Owner: RI >> > >> > Location in reviewed document: >> > H56 >> > >> [http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-TECHS-20070517/Overview.html#H56] >> > >> > Comment: >> > The use of the example of source text runs into similar >> > problems to those described for H34. You can see how I >> > attempted to explain this in examples at >> > http://www.w3.org/International/geo/html-tech/tech-bidi.html#r >> i20030726.140315918 >> > >> > --------------------------------------------- >> > Response from Working Group: >> > --------------------------------------------- >> > >> Thank you for helping us improve this technique and the >> example. The code example now reads: >> >> <p>The title says "<span lang="he" >> dir="rtl">פעילות >> הבינאום</span>, >> W3C" in Hebrew.</p> >> >> >> #-#-# Martin J. Du"rst, Assoc. Professor, Aoyama Gakuin University #-#-# http://www.sw.it.aoyama.ac.jp mailto:duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp
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