- From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 04:59:06 +0900
- To: Mark Davis <mark.davis@icu-project.org>
- Cc: "public-i18n-core@w3.org" <public-i18n-core@w3.org>
+1 Felix Mark Davis wrote: > For the "IDN does it work?" document, I'd suggest showing some important > differences among browsers with regard to IDNs. That is, they have > different strategies for identifying suspicious URLs, although in both > cases they use the Punycode to flag such cases. > > 1. IE7 looks at the languages set in the browser, and deduce from > that a set of scripts. Any name that contains characters outside > of those scripts (or fails in certain other ways) is shown in the > raw punycode form. I believe it also blacklists certain domains. > 2. Firefox assesses the registry policy (in some way), and if they > decide it is satisfactory they let it through. Not sure if they > also have a blacklist. > > For example: > > User Entry Firefox IE7 Comments > www.þorn.is <http://www.%c3%beorn.is/> http://www.þorn.is/ > <http://www.%c3%beorn.is/> þ is Latin > bäcker.com <http://b%c3%a4cker.com/> http://xn--bcker-gra.com/ > http://bäcker.com/ <http://xn--bcker-gra.com/> > путин.museum <http://%d0%bf%d1%83%d1%82%d0%b8%d0%bd.museum/> > http://путин.museum/ <http://%d0%bf%d1%83%d1%82%d0%b8%d0%bd.museum/> > http://xn--h1akeme.museum/ <http://%d0%bf%d1%83%d1%82%d0%b8%d0%bd.museum/> > (*or путин.museum) > <http://%d0%bf%d1%83%d1%82%d0%b8%d0%bd.museum/> * путин.museum > <http://%d0%bf%d1%83%d1%82%d0%b8%d0%bd.museum/> IF the browser accept > languages include Russian. > I♥NY.museum http://i♥ny.museum/ <http://i%e2%99%a5ny.museum/> > http://xn--iny-zx5a.museum/ <http://i%e2%99%a5ny.museum/> > pаypal.museum <http://p%d0%b0ypal.museum/> http://pаypal.museum/ > <http://p%d0%b0ypal.museum/> http://xn--pypal-4ve.museum/ > <http://p%d0%b0ypal.museum/> 'a' is Cyrillic > ibm.com⁄foo.museum http://amazon.xn--comfoo-rq0c.museum/ > <http://amazon.xn--comfoo-rq0c.museum/> fraction-slash > > > (Personally, I think IE7's policies are more useful, but I suspect the > market will force convergence over time.) > > Mark > > On 1/10/07, * Felix Sasaki* <fsasaki@w3.org <mailto:fsasaki@w3.org>> wrote: > > > ... are at http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html and below > as text. > > Felix > > [1]W3C > > [1] http://www.w3.org/ > > i18n core Working Group > > 9 Jan 2007 > > [2]Agenda > > [2] > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Jan/0005.html > <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Jan/0005.html> > > See also: [3]IRC log > > [3] http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-irc > > Attendees > > Present > Felix, Francois, Michael, Richard > > Regrets > Karunesh, Vijay > > Chair > Francois > > Scribe > Felix > > Contents > > * [4]Topics > 1. [5]1) action items > 2. [6]2) CSS 2.1 review > 3. [7]3) PLS review > 4. [8]4) WS-Policy review > 5. [9]5) XML base transition request > 6. [10]6) IRI test for XML Schema > 7. [11]7) Charmod C064 considered unclear > 8. [12]8) BCP 47 URI > 9. [13]9) IDNA > 10. [14]10) New LC drafts (mainly from last calls agenda) > 11. [15]13) AOB > * [16]Summary of Action Items > _________________________________________________________ > > 1) action items > > <scribe> ACTION: ACTION: Felix to go back to XML Schema people with > WG reply on IRI test (DONE) [recorded in > [17]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action01 ] > > <scribe> ACTION: ACTION: Felix to prepare a text of a blog entry > about the IRI / IDN issue in the alverstrand draft and send it > Richard (DONE) [recorded in > [18]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09- i18ncore-minutes.html#action02] > > <scribe> ACTION: Michael to propose an update to the section in the > IRI - IDN draft "does it work?" about domain names, see what needs > to be sad these days (DONE) [recorded in > [19]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action03] > > Francois: I did get the mail on the list > > <scribe> ACTION: Richard to add the alverstrand draft to the IRI / > IDN article (DONE) [recorded in > [20]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action04] > > <scribe> ACTION: all to give feedback on LTLI update (PENDING) > [recorded in > [21]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action05 ] > > <scribe> ACTION: Felix to write a mail about possibility for SVG > tiny specific IRI tests to martin and the i18n core list (PENDING) > [recorded in > [22]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action06 ] > > <scribe> ACTION: Francois to build a current issues list on charmod > norm (PENDING) [recorded in > [23]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action07] > > <scribe> ACTION: Francois to have a look at issue 3698 and gather > information on options for diacrictics in collations (PENDING) > [recorded in > [24]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action08] > > <scribe> ACTION: Richard to find out what is the canonical URI for > BCP47 (DONE) [recorded in > [25]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action09] > > Richard: we need to tell PLS to use the RFC editor URI > > 2) CSS 2.1 review > > <scribe> ACTION: Felix to go back to the CSS WG saying that we did > not come to do the CSS 2.1 review and need an extension until 16 > Februrary [recorded in > [26]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action10] > > Richard: there have been discussions related to the bidi override. > Should we say we want that fixed within CSS 2.1? > ... there is still more discussion tbd > > Felix: I send a mail to the WG asking for an extension until 16 > Februrary > > <scribe> ACTION: Richard to send a mail about our Bidi comment on > CSS 2.1 [recorded in > [27]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action11] > > 3) PLS review > > [28]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Jan/000 > 3.html > > [28] > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Jan/0003.html > > Richard: I agree with everything, except the BCP 47 reference, which > I mentioned in the 0003 mail > > Francois: agree > > RESOLUTION: WG agrees with the position of Richard on PLS comments > in > [29]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Jan/000 > 3.html > > [29] > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Jan/0003.html > > <scribe> ACTION: Richard to go back to PLS folks [recorded in > [30]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action12] > > 4) WS-Policy review > > <scribe> ACTION: Felix to go back to WS policy and say i18n core is > fine with the pocliy drafts [recorded in > [31]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action13] > > 5) XML base transition request > > <fyergeau> > [32]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Dec/001 > 4.html > > [32] > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Dec/0014.html > > (Francois describes the XML Core position) > > Richard: XML core plans to use the XLink reference in all XML > related specs? > > Francois: yes > ... need to reread Martins mail carefully > > <scribe> ACTION: Francois to reread Martins mail and to write a > reply to him [recorded in > [33]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action14] > > 6) IRI test for XML Schema > > <scribe> ACTION: Felix to go back to xml schema saying we will have > IRI xml schema tests as part of the IRI test suite, no need to have > them within the xml schema conformance test suite [recorded in > [34]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action15] > > 7) Charmod C064 considered unclear > > <scribe> postponed > > <scribe> ACTION: all to look at the C064 issue, see > [35]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Dec/002 > 8.html [recorded in > [36]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action16] > > [35] > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Dec/0028.html > <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Dec/0028.html> > > 8) BCP 47 URI > > <scribe> done already > > 9) IDNA > > various people subscribed, but have not followed the discussion in > detail > > Michael: would be good to read the mails > ... looked at some before the holidays > ... there was no agreement on topics like script mixing > > 10) New LC drafts (mainly from last calls agenda) > > <scribe> ACTION: Felix to describe potential data binding review > [recorded in > [37]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action17] > > 13) AOB > > Francois: no call next week (Richard and Felix on travel), call in > two weeks (Regrets from Richard) > > Summary of Action Items > > [NEW] ACTION: all to look at the C064 issue, see > [38]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Dec/002 > 8.html [recorded in > [39]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09- i18ncore-minutes.html#action16] > [NEW] ACTION: Felix to describe potential data binding review > [recorded in > [40]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action17] > [NEW] ACTION: Felix to go back to the CSS WG saying that we did not > come to do the CSS 2.1 review and need an extension until 16 > Februrary [recorded in > [41]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action10] > [NEW] ACTION: Felix to go back to WS policy and say i18n core is > fine with the pocliy drafts [recorded in > [42]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action13] > [NEW] ACTION: Felix to go back to xml schema saying we will have IRI > xml schema tests as part of the IRI test suite, no need to have them > within the xml schema conformance test suite [recorded in > [43]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action15] > [NEW] ACTION: Francois to reread Martins mail and to write a reply > to him [recorded in > [44]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action14] > [NEW] ACTION: Richard to go back to PLS folks [recorded in > [45]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action12] > [NEW] ACTION: Richard to send a mail about our Bidi comment on CSS > 2.1 [recorded in > [46]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action11] > > [38] > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Dec/0028.html > <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Dec/0028.html> > > [PENDING] ACTION: all to give feedback on LTLI update [recorded in > [47]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action05] > [PENDING] ACTION: Felix to write a mail about possibility for SVG > tiny specific IRI tests to martin and the i18n core list [recorded > in [48]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action06] > [PENDING] ACTION: Francois to build a current issues list on charmod > norm [recorded in > [49]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action07] > [PENDING] ACTION: Francois to have a look at issue 3698 and gather > information on options for diacrictics in collations [recorded in > [50]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action08] > [DONE] ACTION: Richard to find out what is the canonical URI for > BCP47 [recorded in > [51]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action09 ] > [DONE] ACTION: Felix to go back to XML Schema people with WG reply > on IRI test [recorded in > [52]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action01] > > [DONE] ACTION: Felix to prepare a text of a blog entry about the IRI > / IDN issue in the alverstrand draft and send it Richard [recorded > in [53]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action02] > [DONE] ACTION: Michael to propose an update to the section in the > IRI - IDN draft "does it work?" about domain names, see what needs > to be sad these days [recorded in > [54]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action03] > [DONE] ACTION: Richard to add the alverstrand draft to the IRI / IDN > article [recorded in > [55]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action04] > > [End of minutes] > _________________________________________________________ > > > Minutes formatted by David Booth's [56]scribe.perl version 1.127 > 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