- From: Mark Davis <mark.davis@icu-project.org>
- Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:58:24 -0800
- To: "Felix Sasaki" <fsasaki@w3.org>
- Cc: "public-i18n-core@w3.org" <public-i18n-core@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <30b660a20701100858s1cd7af0dl3a83c4d3a891dc03@mail.gmail.com>
For the "IDN does it work?" document, I'd suggest showing some important differences among browsers with regard to IDNs. That is, they have different strategies for identifying suspicious URLs, although in both cases they use the Punycode to flag such cases. 1. IE7 looks at the languages set in the browser, and deduce from that a set of scripts. Any name that contains characters outside of those scripts (or fails in certain other ways) is shown in the raw punycode form. I believe it also blacklists certain domains. 2. Firefox assesses the registry policy (in some way), and if they decide it is satisfactory they let it through. Not sure if they also have a blacklist. For example: User Entry Firefox IE7 Comments www.þorn.is <http://www.%c3%beorn.is/> http://www.þorn.is/ <http://www.%c3%beorn.is/> þ is Latin bäcker.com<http://b%c3%a4cker.com/> http://xn--bcker-gra.com/ http://bäcker.com/ <http://xn--bcker-gra.com/> путин.museum <http://%d0%bf%d1%83%d1%82%d0%b8%d0%bd.museum/> http://путин.museum/ <http://%d0%bf%d1%83%d1%82%d0%b8%d0%bd.museum/> http://xn--h1akeme.museum/ <http://%d0%bf%d1%83%d1%82%d0%b8%d0%bd.museum/> (*or путин.museum) <http://%d0%bf%d1%83%d1%82%d0%b8%d0%bd.museum/> *путин.museum<http://%d0%bf%d1%83%d1%82%d0%b8%d0%bd.museum/>IF the browser accept languages include Russian. I♥NY.museum http://i♥ny.museum/<http://i%e2%99%a5ny.museum/> http://xn--iny-zx5a.museum/ <http://i%e2%99%a5ny.museum/> pаypal.museum<http://p%d0%b0ypal.museum/> http://pаypal.museum/ <http://p%d0%b0ypal.museum/> http://xn--pypal-4ve.museum/ <http://p%d0%b0ypal.museum/> 'a' is Cyrillic ibm.com⁄foo.museum http://amazon.xn--comfoo-rq0c.museum/ fraction-slash (Personally, I think IE7's policies are more useful, but I suspect the market will force convergence over time.) Mark On 1/10/07, Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org> wrote: > > > ... are at http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html and below > as text. > > Felix > > [1]W3C > > [1] http://www.w3.org/ > > i18n core Working Group > > 9 Jan 2007 > > [2]Agenda > > [2] > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Jan/0005.html > > See also: [3]IRC log > > [3] http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-irc > > Attendees > > Present > Felix, Francois, Michael, Richard > > Regrets > Karunesh, Vijay > > Chair > Francois > > Scribe > Felix > > Contents > > * [4]Topics > 1. [5]1) action items > 2. [6]2) CSS 2.1 review > 3. [7]3) PLS review > 4. [8]4) WS-Policy review > 5. [9]5) XML base transition request > 6. [10]6) IRI test for XML Schema > 7. [11]7) Charmod C064 considered unclear > 8. [12]8) BCP 47 URI > 9. [13]9) IDNA > 10. [14]10) New LC drafts (mainly from last calls agenda) > 11. [15]13) AOB > * [16]Summary of Action Items > _________________________________________________________ > > 1) action items > > <scribe> ACTION: ACTION: Felix to go back to XML Schema people with > WG reply on IRI test (DONE) [recorded in > [17]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action01] > > <scribe> ACTION: ACTION: Felix to prepare a text of a blog entry > about the IRI / IDN issue in the alverstrand draft and send it > Richard (DONE) [recorded in > [18]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action02] > > <scribe> ACTION: Michael to propose an update to the section in the > IRI - IDN draft "does it work?" about domain names, see what needs > to be sad these days (DONE) [recorded in > [19]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action03] > > Francois: I did get the mail on the list > > <scribe> ACTION: Richard to add the alverstrand draft to the IRI / > IDN article (DONE) [recorded in > [20]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action04] > > <scribe> ACTION: all to give feedback on LTLI update (PENDING) > [recorded in > [21]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action05] > > <scribe> ACTION: Felix to write a mail about possibility for SVG > tiny specific IRI tests to martin and the i18n core list (PENDING) > [recorded in > [22]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action06] > > <scribe> ACTION: Francois to build a current issues list on charmod > norm (PENDING) [recorded in > [23]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action07] > > <scribe> ACTION: Francois to have a look at issue 3698 and gather > information on options for diacrictics in collations (PENDING) > [recorded in > [24]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action08] > > <scribe> ACTION: Richard to find out what is the canonical URI for > BCP47 (DONE) [recorded in > [25]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action09] > > Richard: we need to tell PLS to use the RFC editor URI > > 2) CSS 2.1 review > > <scribe> ACTION: Felix to go back to the CSS WG saying that we did > not come to do the CSS 2.1 review and need an extension until 16 > Februrary [recorded in > [26]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action10] > > Richard: there have been discussions related to the bidi override. > Should we say we want that fixed within CSS 2.1? > ... there is still more discussion tbd > > Felix: I send a mail to the WG asking for an extension until 16 > Februrary > > <scribe> ACTION: Richard to send a mail about our Bidi comment on > CSS 2.1 [recorded in > [27]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action11] > > 3) PLS review > > [28]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Jan/000 > 3.html > > [28] > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Jan/0003.html > > Richard: I agree with everything, except the BCP 47 reference, which > I mentioned in the 0003 mail > > Francois: agree > > RESOLUTION: WG agrees with the position of Richard on PLS comments > in > [29]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Jan/000 > 3.html > > [29] > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Jan/0003.html > > <scribe> ACTION: Richard to go back to PLS folks [recorded in > [30]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action12] > > 4) WS-Policy review > > <scribe> ACTION: Felix to go back to WS policy and say i18n core is > fine with the pocliy drafts [recorded in > [31]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action13] > > 5) XML base transition request > > <fyergeau> > [32]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Dec/001 > 4.html > > [32] > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Dec/0014.html > > (Francois describes the XML Core position) > > Richard: XML core plans to use the XLink reference in all XML > related specs? > > Francois: yes > ... need to reread Martins mail carefully > > <scribe> ACTION: Francois to reread Martins mail and to write a > reply to him [recorded in > [33]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action14] > > 6) IRI test for XML Schema > > <scribe> ACTION: Felix to go back to xml schema saying we will have > IRI xml schema tests as part of the IRI test suite, no need to have > them within the xml schema conformance test suite [recorded in > [34]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action15] > > 7) Charmod C064 considered unclear > > <scribe> postponed > > <scribe> ACTION: all to look at the C064 issue, see > [35]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Dec/002 > 8.html [recorded in > [36]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action16] > > [35] > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Dec/0028.html > > 8) BCP 47 URI > > <scribe> done already > > 9) IDNA > > various people subscribed, but have not followed the discussion in > detail > > Michael: would be good to read the mails > ... looked at some before the holidays > ... there was no agreement on topics like script mixing > > 10) New LC drafts (mainly from last calls agenda) > > <scribe> ACTION: Felix to describe potential data binding review > [recorded in > [37]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action17] > > 13) AOB > > Francois: no call next week (Richard and Felix on travel), call in > two weeks (Regrets from Richard) > > Summary of Action Items > > [NEW] ACTION: all to look at the C064 issue, see > [38]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Dec/002 > 8.html [recorded in > [39]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action16] > [NEW] ACTION: Felix to describe potential data binding review > [recorded in > [40]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action17] > [NEW] ACTION: Felix to go back to the CSS WG saying that we did not > come to do the CSS 2.1 review and need an extension until 16 > Februrary [recorded in > [41]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action10] > [NEW] ACTION: Felix to go back to WS policy and say i18n core is > fine with the pocliy drafts [recorded in > [42]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action13] > [NEW] ACTION: Felix to go back to xml schema saying we will have IRI > xml schema tests as part of the IRI test suite, no need to have them > within the xml schema conformance test suite [recorded in > [43]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action15] > [NEW] ACTION: Francois to reread Martins mail and to write a reply > to him [recorded in > [44]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action14] > [NEW] ACTION: Richard to go back to PLS folks [recorded in > [45]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action12] > [NEW] ACTION: Richard to send a mail about our Bidi comment on CSS > 2.1 [recorded in > [46]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action11] > > [38] > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Dec/0028.html > > [PENDING] ACTION: all to give feedback on LTLI update [recorded in > [47]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action05] > [PENDING] ACTION: Felix to write a mail about possibility for SVG > tiny specific IRI tests to martin and the i18n core list [recorded > in [48]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action06] > [PENDING] ACTION: Francois to build a current issues list on charmod > norm [recorded in > [49]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action07] > [PENDING] ACTION: Francois to have a look at issue 3698 and gather > information on options for diacrictics in collations [recorded in > [50]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action08] > [DONE] ACTION: Richard to find out what is the canonical URI for > BCP47 [recorded in > [51]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action09] > [DONE] ACTION: Felix to go back to XML Schema people with WG reply > on IRI test [recorded in > [52]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action01] > > [DONE] ACTION: Felix to prepare a text of a blog entry about the IRI > / IDN issue in the alverstrand draft and send it Richard [recorded > in [53]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action02] > [DONE] ACTION: Michael to propose an update to the section in the > IRI - IDN draft "does it work?" about domain names, see what needs > to be sad these days [recorded in > [54]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action03] > [DONE] ACTION: Richard to add the alverstrand draft to the IRI / IDN > article [recorded in > [55]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action04] > > [End of minutes] > _________________________________________________________ > > > Minutes formatted by David Booth's [56]scribe.perl version 1.127 > ([57]CVS log) > $Date: 2007/01/10 11:57:42 $ > > [56] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm > [57] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/ > > > -- Mark
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