- From: Michael Monaghan <Michael.Monaghan@sun.com>
- Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 15:15:01 -0500
- To: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
- Cc: Mark Davis <mark.davis@icu-project.org>, "public-i18n-core@w3.org" <public-i18n-core@w3.org>
>>For the "IDN does it work?" document, I'd suggest showing some important >>differences among browsers with regard to IDNs. agreed. > That is, they have >>different strategies for identifying suspicious URLs, although in both >>cases they use the Punycode to flag such cases. >> >> 1. IE7 looks at the languages set in the browser, and deduce from >> that a set of scripts. Any name that contains characters outside >> of those scripts (or fails in certain other ways) is shown in the >> raw punycode form. I believe it also blacklists certain domains. Thanks for explaining this. I couldn't figure out why IE7's behavior wrt IDN was different on my laptop & desktop. ~mm >> 2. Firefox assesses the registry policy (in some way), and if they >> decide it is satisfactory they let it through. Not sure if they >> also have a blacklist. >> >>For example: >> >>User Entry Firefox IE7 Comments >>www.þorn.is <http://www.%c3%beorn.is/> http://www.þorn.is/ >><http://www.%c3%beorn.is/> þ is Latin >>bäcker.com <http://b%c3%a4cker.com/> http://xn--bcker-gra.com/ >>http://bäcker.com/ <http://xn--bcker-gra.com/> >>путин.museum <http://%d0%bf%d1%83%d1%82%d0%b8%d0%bd.museum/> >>http://путин.museum/ <http://%d0%bf%d1%83%d1%82%d0%b8%d0%bd.museum/> >>http://xn--h1akeme.museum/ <http://%d0%bf%d1%83%d1%82%d0%b8%d0%bd.museum/> >>(*or путин.museum) >><http://%d0%bf%d1%83%d1%82%d0%b8%d0%bd.museum/> * путин.museum >><http://%d0%bf%d1%83%d1%82%d0%b8%d0%bd.museum/> IF the browser accept >>languages include Russian. >>I♥NY.museum http://i♥ny.museum/ <http://i%e2%99%a5ny.museum/> >>http://xn--iny-zx5a.museum/ <http://i%e2%99%a5ny.museum/> >>pаypal.museum <http://p%d0%b0ypal.museum/> http://pаypal.museum/ >><http://p%d0%b0ypal.museum/> http://xn--pypal-4ve.museum/ >><http://p%d0%b0ypal.museum/> 'a' is Cyrillic >>ibm.com⁄foo.museum http://amazon.xn--comfoo-rq0c.museum/ >><http://amazon.xn--comfoo-rq0c.museum/> fraction-slash >> >> >>(Personally, I think IE7's policies are more useful, but I suspect the >>market will force convergence over time.) >> >>Mark >> >>On 1/10/07, * Felix Sasaki* <fsasaki@w3.org <mailto:fsasaki@w3.org>> wrote: >> >> >> ... are at http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html and below >> as text. >> >> Felix >> >> [1]W3C >> >> [1] http://www.w3.org/ >> >> i18n core Working Group >> >> 9 Jan 2007 >> >> [2]Agenda >> >> [2] >> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Jan/0005.html >> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Jan/0005.html> >> >> See also: [3]IRC log >> >> [3] http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-irc >> >> Attendees >> >> Present >> Felix, Francois, Michael, Richard >> >> Regrets >> Karunesh, Vijay >> >> Chair >> Francois >> >> Scribe >> Felix >> >> Contents >> >> * [4]Topics >> 1. [5]1) action items >> 2. [6]2) CSS 2.1 review >> 3. [7]3) PLS review >> 4. [8]4) WS-Policy review >> 5. [9]5) XML base transition request >> 6. [10]6) IRI test for XML Schema >> 7. [11]7) Charmod C064 considered unclear >> 8. [12]8) BCP 47 URI >> 9. [13]9) IDNA >> 10. [14]10) New LC drafts (mainly from last calls agenda) >> 11. [15]13) AOB >> * [16]Summary of Action Items >> _________________________________________________________ >> >> 1) action items >> >> <scribe> ACTION: ACTION: Felix to go back to XML Schema people with >> WG reply on IRI test (DONE) [recorded in >> [17]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action01 ] >> >> <scribe> ACTION: ACTION: Felix to prepare a text of a blog entry >> about the IRI / IDN issue in the alverstrand draft and send it >> Richard (DONE) [recorded in >> [18]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09- i18ncore-minutes.html#action02] >> >> <scribe> ACTION: Michael to propose an update to the section in the >> IRI - IDN draft "does it work?" about domain names, see what needs >> to be sad these days (DONE) [recorded in >> [19]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action03] >> >> Francois: I did get the mail on the list >> >> <scribe> ACTION: Richard to add the alverstrand draft to the IRI / >> IDN article (DONE) [recorded in >> [20]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action04] >> >> <scribe> ACTION: all to give feedback on LTLI update (PENDING) >> [recorded in >> [21]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action05 ] >> >> <scribe> ACTION: Felix to write a mail about possibility for SVG >> tiny specific IRI tests to martin and the i18n core list (PENDING) >> [recorded in >> [22]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action06 ] >> >> <scribe> ACTION: Francois to build a current issues list on charmod >> norm (PENDING) [recorded in >> [23]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action07] >> >> <scribe> ACTION: Francois to have a look at issue 3698 and gather >> information on options for diacrictics in collations (PENDING) >> [recorded in >> [24]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action08] >> >> <scribe> ACTION: Richard to find out what is the canonical URI for >> BCP47 (DONE) [recorded in >> [25]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action09] >> >> Richard: we need to tell PLS to use the RFC editor URI >> >> 2) CSS 2.1 review >> >> <scribe> ACTION: Felix to go back to the CSS WG saying that we did >> not come to do the CSS 2.1 review and need an extension until 16 >> Februrary [recorded in >> [26]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action10] >> >> Richard: there have been discussions related to the bidi override. >> Should we say we want that fixed within CSS 2.1? >> ... there is still more discussion tbd >> >> Felix: I send a mail to the WG asking for an extension until 16 >> Februrary >> >> <scribe> ACTION: Richard to send a mail about our Bidi comment on >> CSS 2.1 [recorded in >> [27]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action11] >> >> 3) PLS review >> >> [28]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Jan/000 >> 3.html >> >> [28] >> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Jan/0003.html >> >> Richard: I agree with everything, except the BCP 47 reference, which >> I mentioned in the 0003 mail >> >> Francois: agree >> >> RESOLUTION: WG agrees with the position of Richard on PLS comments >> in >> [29]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Jan/000 >> 3.html >> >> [29] >> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Jan/0003.html >> >> <scribe> ACTION: Richard to go back to PLS folks [recorded in >> [30]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action12] >> >> 4) WS-Policy review >> >> <scribe> ACTION: Felix to go back to WS policy and say i18n core is >> fine with the pocliy drafts [recorded in >> [31]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action13] >> >> 5) XML base transition request >> >> <fyergeau> >> [32]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Dec/001 >> 4.html >> >> [32] >> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Dec/0014.html >> >> (Francois describes the XML Core position) >> >> Richard: XML core plans to use the XLink reference in all XML >> related specs? >> >> Francois: yes >> ... need to reread Martins mail carefully >> >> <scribe> ACTION: Francois to reread Martins mail and to write a >> reply to him [recorded in >> [33]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action14] >> >> 6) IRI test for XML Schema >> >> <scribe> ACTION: Felix to go back to xml schema saying we will have >> IRI xml schema tests as part of the IRI test suite, no need to have >> them within the xml schema conformance test suite [recorded in >> [34]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action15] >> >> 7) Charmod C064 considered unclear >> >> <scribe> postponed >> >> <scribe> ACTION: all to look at the C064 issue, see >> [35]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Dec/002 >> 8.html [recorded in >> [36]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action16] >> >> [35] >> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Dec/0028.html >> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Dec/0028.html> >> >> 8) BCP 47 URI >> >> <scribe> done already >> >> 9) IDNA >> >> various people subscribed, but have not followed the discussion in >> detail >> >> Michael: would be good to read the mails >> ... looked at some before the holidays >> ... there was no agreement on topics like script mixing >> >> 10) New LC drafts (mainly from last calls agenda) >> >> <scribe> ACTION: Felix to describe potential data binding review >> [recorded in >> [37]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action17] >> >> 13) AOB >> >> Francois: no call next week (Richard and Felix on travel), call in >> two weeks (Regrets from Richard) >> >> Summary of Action Items >> >> [NEW] ACTION: all to look at the C064 issue, see >> [38]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Dec/002 >> 8.html [recorded in >> [39]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09- i18ncore-minutes.html#action16] >> [NEW] ACTION: Felix to describe potential data binding review >> [recorded in >> [40]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action17] >> [NEW] ACTION: Felix to go back to the CSS WG saying that we did not >> come to do the CSS 2.1 review and need an extension until 16 >> Februrary [recorded in >> [41]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action10] >> [NEW] ACTION: Felix to go back to WS policy and say i18n core is >> fine with the pocliy drafts [recorded in >> [42]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action13] >> [NEW] ACTION: Felix to go back to xml schema saying we will have IRI >> xml schema tests as part of the IRI test suite, no need to have them >> within the xml schema conformance test suite [recorded in >> [43]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action15] >> [NEW] ACTION: Francois to reread Martins mail and to write a reply >> to him [recorded in >> [44]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action14] >> [NEW] ACTION: Richard to go back to PLS folks [recorded in >> [45]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action12] >> [NEW] ACTION: Richard to send a mail about our Bidi comment on CSS >> 2.1 [recorded in >> [46]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action11] >> >> [38] >> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Dec/0028.html >> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2006Dec/0028.html> >> >> [PENDING] ACTION: all to give feedback on LTLI update [recorded in >> [47]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action05] >> [PENDING] ACTION: Felix to write a mail about possibility for SVG >> tiny specific IRI tests to martin and the i18n core list [recorded >> in [48]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action06] >> [PENDING] ACTION: Francois to build a current issues list on charmod >> norm [recorded in >> [49]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action07] >> [PENDING] ACTION: Francois to have a look at issue 3698 and gather >> information on options for diacrictics in collations [recorded in >> [50]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action08] >> [DONE] ACTION: Richard to find out what is the canonical URI for >> BCP47 [recorded in >> [51]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action09 ] >> [DONE] ACTION: Felix to go back to XML Schema people with WG reply >> on IRI test [recorded in >> [52]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action01] >> >> [DONE] ACTION: Felix to prepare a text of a blog entry about the IRI >> / IDN issue in the alverstrand draft and send it Richard [recorded >> in [53]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action02] >> [DONE] ACTION: Michael to propose an update to the section in the >> IRI - IDN draft "does it work?" about domain names, see what needs >> to be sad these days [recorded in >> [54]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action03] >> [DONE] ACTION: Richard to add the alverstrand draft to the IRI / IDN >> article [recorded in >> [55]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-i18ncore-minutes.html#action04] >> >> [End of minutes] >> _________________________________________________________ >> >> >> Minutes formatted by David Booth's [56]scribe.perl version 1.127 >> ([57]CVS log) >> $Date: 2007/01/10 11:57:42 $ >> >> [56] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm >> [57] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/ >> >> >> >> >> >>-- >>Mark > > >
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