Re: 'Canonical' URI for BCP 47

I believe the RFC Editor is correct - the copy of the files
at ietf.org is a mirror of the official repository
at rfc-editor.org.

     Brian

On 2007-01-08 19:34, RFC Editor wrote:
> Richard,
> 
> We apologize for the lack of follow-up with this discussion.   The
> reference should point to the RFC Editor webpage, as we are the
> official repository for RFC documents. The IETF page is a mirror. 
> 
> In our publication announcements, we provide the following address:
> 
>    http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfcXXXX.txt
> 
> Therefore, we strongly recommend the following, as this matches
> what our publication announcements:
> 
>    http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/bcp/bcp47.txt
> 
> Thank you for your suggestion regarding the note that has been added
> to files that are composed of more than one RFC.  We will take this
> into consideration.
> 
> Please let us know if you have any questions or concerns.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> RFC Editor
> 
> On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 03:39:27PM -0000, Richard Ishida wrote:
>> Dear IETF editors,
>>
>> I have not received any clarifications from you on the conversation below,
>> but have had some pressure from individuals in the W3C to use the address
>> http://www.ietf.org/rfc/bcp/bcp47.txt, since this clearly shows that BCP 47
>> was created and is maintained by the IETF, and it is simpler and therefore
>> more memorable.  Given the lack of response to the earlier mails, I'm
>> inclined to think that this is not a big issue, and so unless I hear from
>> you to the contrary in the next few days, and so that certain specifications
>> can move ahead, I propose to recommend that W3C specifications and articles
>> use http://www.ietf.org/rfc/bcp/bcp47.txt to refer to BCP 47.
>>
>> On a slightly different topic, thank you for adding the note to the top of
>> the file mentioning that the document is a concatenation of more than one
>> RFC. This will be a big help.  Note however that I think it would improve
>> the note to mention *which* RFCs are concatenated - eg. "[Note that this
>> file is a concatenation of RFC 4646 and RFC 4647.]". 
>>
>> Best regards,
>> RI
>>
>> ============
>> Richard Ishida
>> Internationalization Lead
>> W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)
>>  
>> http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/
>> http://www.w3.org/International/
>> http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ishida/
>>  
>>  
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Richard Ishida [mailto:ishida@w3.org] 
>>> Sent: 23 November 2006 13:04
>>> To: 'Bob Braden'
>>> Cc: iab@ietf.org; 'Richard Ishida'
>>> Subject: RE: 'Canonical' URI for BCP 47
>>>
>>> Bob,
>>>
>>> Any progress on this front?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> RI
>>>
>>>
>>> ============
>>> Richard Ishida
>>> Internationalization Lead
>>> W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)
>>>
>>> http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/
>>> http://www.w3.org/International/
>>> http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ishida/
>>>  
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Bob Braden [mailto:braden@ISI.EDU]
>>>> Sent: 10 November 2006 19:25
>>>> To: braden@ISI.EDU; ishida@w3.org
>>>> Cc: iab@ietf.org
>>>> Subject: RE: 'Canonical' URI for BCP 47
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   *>
>>>>   *> Hello Bob,
>>>>   *>
>>>>   *> Now I'm confused again ;-)  I received a response a 
>>> short while 
>>>> ago from
>>>>   *> rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org as follows:
>>>>   *>
>>>> Ooops, sorry, our internal coordination error.  Give us a 
>>> few days to 
>>>> straighten it out, please.
>>>>
>>>> Bob Braden
>>>>
>>>>   *> ============================
>>>>   *> From: RFC Editor [mailto:rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org]
>>>>   *> Sent: 10 November 2006 18:06
>>>>   *> To: Richard Ishida
>>>>   *> Cc: RFC Editor
>>>>   *> Subject: Re: 'Canonical' URI for BCP 47
>>>>   *>
>>>>   *> Richard,
>>>>   *>
>>>>   *> We suggest using the following:
>>>>   *> 
>>>>   *>    ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/bcp/bcp47.txt
>>>>   *>
>>>>   *> The RFC Editor site is the official repository for RFC 
>>> documents.
>>>>   *>
>>>>   *> Please let us know if you have any questions.
>>>>   *>
>>>>   *> Thank you.
>>>>   *>
>>>>   *> RFC Editor
>>>>   *> ===============================
>>>>   *>
>>>>   *> Your suggestion below is:
>>>>   *> 
>>>>   *> >   *> [3] http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/bcp/bcp47.txt
>>>>   *>
>>>>   *> Do you disagree with the earlier response?  
>>>>   *>
>>>>   *> Thanks,
>>>>   *> Richard.
>>>>   *>
>>>>   *>
>>>>   *>
>>>>   *>
>>>>   *> ============
>>>>   *> Richard Ishida
>>>>   *> Internationalization Lead
>>>>   *> W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)
>>>>   *>
>>>>   *> http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/
>>>>   *> http://www.w3.org/International/
>>>>   *> http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/
>>>>   *> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ishida/
>>>>   *>
>>>>   *>
>>>>   *> > -----Original Message-----
>>>>   *> > From: Bob Braden [mailto:braden@ISI.EDU]
>>>>   *> > Sent: 10 November 2006 18:49
>>>>   *> > To: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org; ishida@w3.org
>>>>   *> > Cc: iab@ietf.org
>>>>   *> > Subject: Re: 'Canonical' URI for BCP 47
>>>>   *> >
>>>>   *> > 
>>>>   *> >   *>
>>>>   *> >   *> Dear rfc-editor,
>>>>   *> >   *>
>>>>   *> >   *> I need to recommend a URI for use in W3C specifications 
>>>>   *> > and throughout the Web for referencing BCP 47. (This includes
>>>>   *> > a specification we are writing that will specify that people
>>>>   *> > should use references to BCP 47 for language tags and
>>>> matching.)
>>>>   *> >   *>
>>>>   *> >   *> I have found the following possibilities:
>>>>   *> >   *>
>>>>   *> >   *> [1] http://www.ietf.org/rfc/bcp/bcp47.txt
>>>>   *> >   *>
>>>>   *> >   *> [2] ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/bcp/bcp47.txt
>>>>   *> >   *>
>>>>   *> >   *> [3] http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/bcp/bcp47.txt
>>>>   *> >   *>
>>>>   *> >   *> [4] http://tools.ietf.org/html/bcp47
>>>>   *> >   *>
>>>>   *> >   *> I have asked a number of people, and received 
>>>>   *> > conflicting advice about which of these I should use as the
>>>>   *> > standard link to BCP 47.  Please tell me which you would 
>>>> recommend.
>>>>   *> >   *>
>>>>   *> >   *> Thanks,
>>>>   *> >   *> RI
>>>>   *> >
>>>>   *> > [2] is wrong; it should be:
>>>>   *> > 
>>>>   *> > [2'] ftp://ftp.rf-editor.org/in-notes/bcp.bp.47.txt
>>>>   *> >
>>>>   *> > (This is the URI; the one you listed is only a URL)
>>>>   *> >
>>>>   *> > Under contract from the Internet Society, the RFC Editor runs
>>>>   *> > the primary repository/archive for RFCs, and hence for BCPs.
>>>>   *> > We believe that [3] should be the preferred URI for any BCP.
>>>>   *> >
>>>>   *> > Bob Braden for the RFC Editor
>>>>   *> >
>>>>   *> >
>>>>   *>
>>>>
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