Re: Intermixed Hangul in Japanese // 日本語と韓国文字の行の調整処理

On 2014/10/24 00:41, Koji Ishii wrote:
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>> On Oct 23, 2014, at 23:45, Ryosuke Niwa <rniwa@apple.com> wrote:
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>> Hm... they're like 漢文(Classical Chinese) with spaces, right?
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> Han-only Korean text (traditional, 500 years or so ago) is similar to Kanbun, but Hangul-only or primarily-Hangul text is somewhere between Chinese/Japanese and Latin. Words are separated by spaces, and lines can break either at character or word boundaries[1].
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>> So I'd imagine they would be justified like Kanji/Kana with spaces but perhaps there are justification rule for Koreans in Japanese I'm not aware of?
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> I can imagine such layout is quite possible, especially given most Hangul words appearing within Japanese are likely to be a single word, but I wonder maybe if two or more words appear within Japanese text, they might need to behave differently.

I agree. I'm in no way an expert, but I guess it also depends on the 
intended reader. If a single Hangul word is just included for something 
close to curiosity's sake, then it probably will be treated mostly like 
Kanji/Kana. If it's a phrase or a sentence of Korean, it will most 
likely have spaces where it needs spaces, and that will help with 
justification. If it doesn't have spaces, then I'd declare that the 
author's fault, and not care too much that CSS doesn't do too good a job.

Regards,   Martin.

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> JLTF people, does anyone know if my concern is a false concern?
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> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/klreq/#line-break
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> /koji
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>> On Oct 23, 2014, at 3:20 AM, Koji Ishii <kojiishi@gluesoft.co.jp> wrote:
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>>> Ryosuke, I don’t know the answer, but is it the same even when the Korean text contains spaces?
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>>> /koji
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>>> On Oct 23, 2014, at 6:06 AM, Ryosuke Niwa <rniwa@apple.com> wrote:
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>>>> It would be justified as Kanji/Kana or any other idiographic characters.
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>>>> - R. Niwa
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>>>>> On Oct 22, 2014, at 1:52 PM, fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net> wrote:
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>>>>> Hello JLTF!
>>>>> I have a question about Japanese justification practices.
>>>>> We have a lot of information in JLREQ about handling of
>>>>> Kanji, Kana, Latin, and various punctuation. This takes
>>>>> care of mixing Japanese with European-language writing
>>>>> systems and Chinese-language writing systems. My question
>>>>> is about Korean, if Hangul is included in a Japanese
>>>>> document, is it justified as Kanji/Kana or is it justified
>>>>> as Latin?
>>>>>
>>>>> For example, given the sentence
>>>>> 0. 김형수は艾俐俐と中国で勉強しました。
>>>>> is it correct to justify as
>>>>> 1. 김형수 は 艾 俐 俐 と 中 国 で 勉 強 し ま し た。
>>>>> or
>>>>> 2. 김 형 수 は 艾 俐 俐 と 中 国 で 勉 強 し ま し た。
>>>>> ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>
>>>>> 韓国語の文字が日本語のページにあるは、行の調整処理の時どれがいいですか
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. 김형수 は 艾 俐 俐 と 中 国 で 勉 強 し ま し た。
>>>>> 2. 김 형 수 は 艾 俐 俐 と 中 国 で 勉 強 し ま し た。
>>>>> 3. #1がいい、＃２もいい。
>>>>>
>>>>> (Sorry for the (probably) non-grammatical Japanese, hopefully
>>>>> it is nonetheless understandable.)
>>>>>
>>>>> ありがとうございます！！
>>>>>
>>>>> ~fantasai
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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