[minutes] Arabic layout task force telecon 2016-12-06

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ALReq Weekly Meeting

06 Dec 2016

    See also: [2]IRC log

       [2] http://www.w3.org/2016/12/06-alreq-irc

Attendees

    Present
           Behnam, Shervin, r12a, mostafa, najib

    Regrets
    Chair
           Shervin

    Scribe
           Behnam

Contents

      * [3]Topics
      * [4]Summary of Action Items
      * [5]Summary of Resolutions
      __________________________________________________________

    <mostafa> [6]https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/86

       [6] https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/86

    Shervin: Last time we cut of in the middle of discussion about
    underline and overline
    ... Last week we stopped in the middle of discussion about
    underline and overline
    ... as seen in screenshots provided by najib, we can see
    different behaviors based on font and environment
    ... has anyone anything to add?

    <Shervin>
    [7]https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/86#issuecomment-26152881
    1

       [7] https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/86#issuecomment-261528811

    <Shervin>
    [8]https://www.w3.org/International/groups/arabic-layout/track/
    actions/open

       [8] 
https://www.w3.org/International/groups/arabic-layout/track/actions/open

    Shervin: Let's look at the action items
    ... actions 73 & 74, let's get back to them later

    Behnam: actions 23, 48, 54, there hasn't been new development.
    Will update next time

    <Shervin> [9]https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues

       [9] https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues

    Shervin: let's look at issues

    <Shervin> [10]https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/85

      [10] https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/85

    Shervin: najib, Khalid's comment is valid. Is there a concern
    now?

    najib: Looking at the Arabic numerals wiki page and there's a
    difference between the categories of Persian and Arabic numbers

    Shervin: This is a matter for Unicode. Apparently the
    properties are set based on the need at the time. Unicode
    mailing lists should have more info about this.
    ... I agree that we may want to note the difference in the
    document.
    ... Let's look more into it

    <Shervin> ACTION Shervin Find some more detail about why
    Arabic/Persian numbers bidi category differs.

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-75 - Find some more detail about why
    arabic/persian numbers bidi category differs. [on Shervin
    Afshar - due 2016-12-13].

    <najib>
    [11]https://github.com/w3c/alreq/wiki/Arabic-numerals-%28Draft%
    29

      [11] https://github.com/w3c/alreq/wiki/Arabic-numerals-(Draft)

    <Shervin> [12]https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/82

      [12] https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/82

    <Shervin> [13]https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/62

      [13] https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/62

    Shervin: I'm not sure if we need to keep this issue open

    najib: I'm noting this problem in my draft write up

    Shervin: najib, could you comment on the issue, so we can close
    the issue?

    <Shervin> [14]https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/59

      [14] https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/59

    <Shervin> [15]https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/57

      [15] https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/57

    Shervin: najib, you may want to also look at #59 for the draft

    <Shervin> ACTION najib to add some comments to Github issue 59
    about fractions

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-76 - Add some comments to github
    issue 59 about fractions [on Najib Tounsi - due 2016-12-13].

    Shervin: mostafa, updates on #57?

    mostafa: We have a first draft in the document and keep working
    on it

    <Shervin> [16]https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/13

      [16] https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/13

    <Shervin> [17]https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/9

      [17] https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/9

    <Shervin> [18]https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/5

      [18] https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/5

    Shervin: That's all for issues.
    ... I have one topic to talk about: Abjad, which najib
    commented on on the list

    <najib>
    [19]https://github.com/w3c/predefined-counter-styles/issues/14

      [19] https://github.com/w3c/predefined-counter-styles/issues/14

    r12a: there's no definition of Mabsut in the document

    oh, right, r12a. tnx

    Shervin: We don't have "mabsut" in the glossary

    <mostafa> +

    <mostafa> +1

    <Shervin>
    [20]https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nSxYKQm_mKroCmxU4fy
    J-g70Eo1_mF89yHZg8YNOuzc/edit

      [20] 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nSxYKQm_mKroCmxU4fyJ-g70Eo1_mF89yHZg8YNOuzc/edit

    Shervin: we can add definitions for the terms (mabsut, etc) to
    the glossary
    ... the question is when we want to move the glossary to the
    main document

    <Shervin> ACTION Shervin Get the definitions for Mabsut, etc.
    for the glossary

    <trackbot> Error creating an ACTION: could not connect to
    Tracker. Please mail <sysreq@w3.org> with details about what
    happened.

    Shervin: I'm going to reject the PR, as we cannot merge it in
    the way it is.
    ... we need to have the definition first

    r12a: After we have the definitions, we need to make a proper
    link to the glossary

    mostafa: About Ebrahim, I have contacted him and he has been
    having problems with his email account. r12a, can we change his
    email address?

    <Shervin>
    [21]https://github.com/w3c/predefined-counter-styles/issues/14

      [21] https://github.com/w3c/predefined-counter-styles/issues/14

    Shervin: Looking at Maghrebian Abjad issue last night and doing
    some research
    ... there are books that mention variations of Abjad

    <Shervin> Moorish Abjad.

    Shervin: sometimes it's called Maghrebian, but also called
    Moorish

    <Shervin>
    [22]https://github.com/w3c/predefined-counter-styles/issues/13

      [22] https://github.com/w3c/predefined-counter-styles/issues/13

    r12a: there's an issue open to fix counter-style definitions
    for Abjad
    ... the question is, if the Maghrebian Abjad is in use, as
    that's a requirement for the counter-styles document

    najib: We may want to add Maghrebi Abjad to ALReq document
    ... Maghrebi Abjad is a historical abjad, not actively used
    currently

    r12a: So it probably doesn't make it to the counter-styles
    document
    ... About ALReq document, we may want to do the same thing as
    it's not being used

    Shervin: Maybe we should add it to ALReq document and have a
    note about it being historical

    najib: There are many dictionaries that are ordered in Maghrebi
    Abjad

    Shervin: Is it Maghrebi Abjad or Arabic Abjad?

    najib: I need to check
    ... What do you think about pronunciation differences?
    ... In Arabic, the pronunciation has a music to it

    Shervin: Anything else?

    najib: In the document, Section 4. Lines and Paragraphs
    ... 4.3 Paragraph and line alignment

    mostafa: I've been working on 4.2

    Shervin: Anything else?

    najib: Next Tuesday, it's a holiday in Morocco, so I may not be
    able to join

    Shervin: Talking about holidays, what's everyone's plan for
    late December?

    r12a: I'll be out for 3-4 weeks during the holidays

    <najib> I'm here whole december

    Shervin: Have a good day and we will talk next week

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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