[minutes] Arabic layout telecon 2016-12-13

https://www.w3.org/2016/12/13-alreq-minutes.html



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                     Arabic layout task force meeting

13 Dec 2016

    See also: [2]IRC log

       [2] http://www.w3.org/2016/12/13-alreq-irc

Attendees

    Present
           Behnam, Shervin, r12a, mostafa

    Regrets
    Chair
           behnam

    Scribe
           Shervin

Contents

      * [3]Topics
      * [4]Summary of Action Items
      * [5]Summary of Resolutions
      __________________________________________________________

    <scribe> ScribeNick: Shervin

    behnam: Starting from Mostafa's survey of more fonts using
    underline

    <mostafa> [6]https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/86

       [6] https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/86

    mostafa: It appears that each browser have a different
    behaviour...
    ... But the same behavior is repeated across different fonts.
    ... So Chrome is underline without change
    ... Different behaviour of Firefox might be due to a feature of
    the fonts
    ... I guess that might be due to putting the underline at the
    base line or at the descender line

    Shervin: Safari behavior of skipping looks odd

    behnam: The only difference between that and Chrome is skipping
    ... skipping works fine with Latin and many prefer it

    r12a: We need to say what should the behavior be

    behnam: We need to collect some samples from movable type
    prints

    <mostafa> +1

    Shervin: Will provide a report of my research in manuscripts
    regarding using underline and overline

    behnam: I've seen usage of overline for quotation

    <behnam> ACTION behnam to investigate unerline/overline usage
    in movabletype

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-77 - Investigate unerline/overline
    usage in movabletype [on Behnam Esfahbod - due 2016-12-20].

    behnam: Need to look at commonly used software suites like MS
    Word or legacy Zarnegar

    <mostafa>
    [7]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1125905/FullSizeRender.j
    pg

       [7] https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1125905/FullSizeRender.jpg

    <behnam> ACTION: mostafa to collect evidence of underline from
    old magazines [recorded in
    [8]http://www.w3.org/2016/12/13-alreq-minutes.html#action01]

       [8] http://www.w3.org/2016/12/13-alreq-minutes.html#action01]

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-78 - Collect evidence of underline
    from old magazines [on Mostafa Hajizadeh - due 2016-12-20].

    mostafa: I can do a survey of older magazine from Iran
    regarding underline usage

    r12a: Seems like the letters are not completely joined and
    there is a gap, is this intentional?

    mostafa: Most likely this is due a technical issue in the
    movable type. As this behaviour is not seen in typesetting of
    ads.

    <mostafa>
    [9]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1125905/IMG_0060.JPG

       [9] https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1125905/IMG_0060.JPG

    r12a: The dropcase looks very interesting. There are also other
    interesting things in this image

    behnam: The transition to chevron for quotation seems something
    recent; turn of the century or around that time.
    ... Moving on to other items on the agenda.

    <behnam>
    [10]https://www.w3.org/International/groups/arabic-layout/track
    /actions/open?sort=owner

      [10] 
https://www.w3.org/International/groups/arabic-layout/track/actions/open?sort=owner

    behnam: Looking at the action items...

    Shervin: Regarding transliteration, I'd prefer to be able to
    bulk transliterate

    r12a: The tool can be passed 300 lines of text to transliterate

    <r12a> [11]http://rishida.io/pickers/persian/

      [11] http://rishida.io/pickers/persian/

    r12a: We don't need to add as many diacritics as for Arabic for
    Persian
    ... We need to check the transliteration rules are useful
    ... the run it and then correct the issues
    ... add short vowels....

    behnam: Regarding ACTION-75, bidi specification of arabic vs.
    persian numerals
    ... there are some information regarding use of punctuation
    marks with numbers and I recall some discussion on the mailing
    list

    Shervin: We need to get to a recorded account of this behaviour
    from source.

Summary of Action Items

    [NEW] ACTION: mostafa to collect evidence of underline from old
    magazines [recorded in
    [12]http://www.w3.org/2016/12/13-alreq-minutes.html#action01]

      [12] http://www.w3.org/2016/12/13-alreq-minutes.html#action01

Summary of Resolutions

    [End of minutes]

Received on Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:33:08 UTC