- From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 21:34:27 +0100
- To: public-i18n-arabic@w3.org
http://www.w3.org/2015/10/13-alreq-minutes.html
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Alreq telecon
13 Oct 2015
See also: [2]IRC log
[2] http://www.w3.org/2015/10/13-alreq-irc
Attendees
Present
shervin, r12a, Behnam, Mmostafa, Waseem, Najib
Regrets
Chair
Shervin
Scribe
Shervin, Behnam
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]Status review of action items from previous meeting
2. [5]2. Recruiting Status
3. [6]Topics on shape of future document
4. [7]Status report on glossary work
5. [8]Planning for IUC lightening talk
6. [9]Glossary Terms
7. [10]Start of drafting the document
* [11]Summary of Action Items
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Status review of action items from previous meeting
[12]http://www.w3.org/2015/10/06-alreq-minutes.html#ActionSumma
ry
[12] http://www.w3.org/2015/10/06-alreq-minutes.html#ActionSummary
<r12a> ACTION: Behnam to research the existing experts for
other languages like Urdu [ONGOING] [recorded in
[13]http://www.w3.org/2015/10/13-alreq-minutes.html#action01]
<r12a> ACTION: Mostafa to reach out to experts in Iran
[recorded in
[14]http://www.w3.org/2015/10/13-alreq-minutes.html#action02]
<r12a> close action 2
@mostafa: Contacted book and ebook publishers
scribe: some of them are interested
<Shervin> ACTION: r12a to check regarding processing of the
minutes and get back to the group. [ONGOING] [recorded in
[15]http://www.w3.org/2015/10/13-alreq-minutes.html#action03]
<Shervin> ACTION: Shervin to put together a preliminary list of
existing literature. [ONGOING] [recorded in
[16]http://www.w3.org/2015/10/13-alreq-minutes.html#action04]
<mostafa> I contacted Chesmeh Publishing, Farhang Moaser, and
two ebook services: Fidibo and Taaghche.
<scribe> ACTION: Shervin to put together a preliminary list of
existing literature. [ONGOING] [recorded in
[17]http://www.w3.org/2015/10/13-alreq-minutes.html#action05]
<scribe> ACTION: Behnam to file an issue re Math and whether to
exclude that in the first version [recorded in
[18]http://www.w3.org/2015/10/13-alreq-minutes.html#action06]
<r12a> close
[19]https://github.com/w3c/predefined-counter-styles/issues/1
[19] https://github.com/w3c/predefined-counter-styles/issues/1
[20]https://github.com/w3c/predefined-counter-styles/issues/2
[20] https://github.com/w3c/predefined-counter-styles/issues/2
close
<scribe> ACTION: Behnam to files issues on
w3c/predefined-counter-styles regarding naming and content
[CLOSED] [recorded in
[21]http://www.w3.org/2015/10/13-alreq-minutes.html#action07]
<scribe> ACTION: Behnam to file an issue re Math and whether to
exclude that in the first version [ONGOING] [recorded in
[22]http://www.w3.org/2015/10/13-alreq-minutes.html#action08]
<scribe> ACTION: Behnam to file github issues for special
cases, like Quran [recorded in
[23]http://www.w3.org/2015/10/13-alreq-minutes.html#action09]
<scribe> ongoing
<scribe> ACTION: Gather information about Arabic-specific
Typesetting software [recorded in
[24]http://www.w3.org/2015/10/13-alreq-minutes.html#action10]
<Shervin> ack @mostafa
Najib: Reaching out to his contact.
<mostafa> [25]http://maryamsoft.com/QuranPrinting/
[25] http://maryamsoft.com/QuranPrinting/
mostafa: Contacted Maryam Soft about their Quran Printing
solution.
<scribe> ongoing
<scribe> ACTION: Mostafa to break this into four separate
issues [recorded in
[26]http://www.w3.org/2015/10/13-alreq-minutes.html#action11]
<scribe> closed action 11
<scribe> ACTION: Richard to figure out how to maintain action
items [recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2015/10/13-alreq-minutes.html#action12]
<scribe> closed action 12
<scribe> ACTION: Shervin to lead developing the Glossary and
ask for volunteers on the list [recorded in
[28]http://www.w3.org/2015/10/13-alreq-minutes.html#action13]
<scribe> closed action 13
2. Recruiting Status
Shervin: Any updates on recruiting?
Topics on shape of future document
Shervin: Let's open the discussion for self-sufficiency of the
document
<Shervin> scribenick: Shervin
Behnam: For example the counter styles; letter Heh which needs
a different presentation
... standalone or connected
... crossword, list, etc.
... there is no standard. It's domain-specific knowledge.
... There no similar cases in Latin or any other languages.
... This is one example that we might want to add some in top
of what Unicode provides.
<scribe> scribenick: Behnam
mostafa: No reason to not refer to other sources
... We need some requirements on referencing to other sources
r12a: Regarding what Behnam's point: not sure if we want to
list all the characters
Shervin: For some domain-specific knowledge, we may go on with
inventing guidelines
... but I tend to not to do that
... With Behnam, we discussed having characters charts
r12a: In JLReq, the charts were needed for justification
purposes
... no need to list all the shapes of the characters
<Shervin> scribenick: Shervin
Behnam: Charts for listing the props of the char that we need
to refer to. From Unicode and CLDR. \
... e.g. Letter Heh; its specific property is not documented.
... In such cases we might end up defining things which might
have not been formaly defined.
<scribe> scribenick: Behnam
Shervin: Summery: we can go by on a case-by-case basis
Status report on glossary work
<Shervin>
[29]https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nSxYKQm_mKroCmxU4fy
J-g70Eo1_mF89yHZg8YNOuzc/edit?usp=sharing
[29]
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nSxYKQm_mKroCmxU4fyJ-g70Eo1_mF89yHZg8YNOuzc/edit?usp=sharing
Shervin: looking at the Glossary document
... we have about 200 terms to be translated
<Shervin>
[30]https://www.dropbox.com/sh/k434grae6viry5s/AAD0dJCTNIVPqRqK
hrKkDCdXa?dl=0
[30]
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/k434grae6viry5s/AAD0dJCTNIVPqRqKhrKkDCdXa?dl=0
Shervin: If you look at the Arabic references
... one document is something put together by one individual,
which looks pretty useful
... Like to ask Najib, Wassim and others have a look and
comment
... About the Persian terms, Salar and me (Shervin) will work
on them
mostafa: Noted two more books to be used as reference
Shervin: I don't have those books around
... but you can add them as reference if needed
mostafa: I have the books and can go over the glossaries myself
Shervin: That's doable, but let's keep the list limited to
terms related to the goals directly
... front-cover and back-cover are in the list already
Planning for IUC lightening talk
Shervin: The Unicode conference is in a couple of weeks
... Martin suggested to have a Lightning Talk about the TF
<Shervin> scribenick: Shervin
Behnam: IUC a good place to get feedback. People from other
LReqs would be there.
... Good recruiting opportunity.
... Behnam looks into having a F2F with other LReqs.
<scribe> scribenick: Behnam
<scribe> ACTION: Behnam to follow-up with Martin about a
Lightning Talk at the IUC [recorded in
[31]http://www.w3.org/2015/10/13-alreq-minutes.html#action14]
<scribe> ACTION: Behnam to prepare slides for the talk and
share with the TF [recorded in
[32]http://www.w3.org/2015/10/13-alreq-minutes.html#action15]
Glossary Terms
<mostafa> Let me review the list again.
Start of drafting the document
Shervin: Anyone has any comments about the terms/TOC?
... Have a question for Najib: Could you help us with drafting
the document?
<Shervin> Najib, can you help with drafting some text?
Najib: Yes, I can help in translating terms and filling in the
glossary
<Shervin> Thanks, Najib.
<Najib> /me /me has bad quality sound
<r12a> Najib, i think the question was whether you can help
with the main content? Or perhaps Azzeddine?
Najib: these terms come from the Arabic version of Windows OS
Shervin: I see the list and it's great to have them
... the terms are more specific to software, so it would be
great for Najim to go over our list
... and fill in the glossary for the terms we have there
Najib: Yes, I can take the terms that are needed in our
glossary and add them there
<Shervin> Shervin is going to send an email regarding glossary
to Najib.
<Shervin> [33]http://w3c.github.io/alreq/
[33] http://w3c.github.io/alreq/
Shervin: One example being why ARABIC YEH is used in Persian
... as listed in the Aux list in CLDR
... About Spacing: issues with using space in lists, or when
Arabic text going along with non-Arabic text
... We can start working on the text in any shared-document and
we will discuss it there and bring in the text
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Behnam to file github issues for special cases,
like Quran [recorded in
[34]http://www.w3.org/2015/10/13-alreq-minutes.html#action09]
[NEW] ACTION: Behnam to follow-up with Martin about a Lightning
Talk at the IUC [recorded in
[35]http://www.w3.org/2015/10/13-alreq-minutes.html#action14]
[NEW] ACTION: Behnam to prepare slides for the talk and share
with the TF [recorded in
[36]http://www.w3.org/2015/10/13-alreq-minutes.html#action15]
[NEW] ACTION: Gather information about Arabic-specific
Typesetting software [recorded in
[37]http://www.w3.org/2015/10/13-alreq-minutes.html#action10]
[NEW] ACTION: Richard to figure out how to maintain action
items [recorded in
[38]http://www.w3.org/2015/10/13-alreq-minutes.html#action12]
[PENDING] ACTION: Behnam to file an issue re Math and whether
to exclude that in the first version [recorded in
[39]http://www.w3.org/2015/10/13-alreq-minutes.html#action08]
[PENDING] ACTION: Behnam to research the existing experts for
other languages like Urdu [recorded in
[40]http://www.w3.org/2015/10/13-alreq-minutes.html#action01]
[PENDING] ACTION: r12a to check regarding processing of the
minutes and get back to the group. [recorded in
[41]http://www.w3.org/2015/10/13-alreq-minutes.html#action03]
[PENDING] ACTION: Shervin to put together a preliminary list of
existing literature. [recorded in
[42]http://www.w3.org/2015/10/13-alreq-minutes.html#action04]
[End of minutes]
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