Re: Interesting blog post: GraphQL and REST

On 29 June 2015 at 21:16, Markus Lanthaler <markus.lanthaler@gmx.net> wrote:

> On Sunday, June 28, 2015 11:06 PM, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
> > On 28 June 2015 at 22:54, Markus Lanthaler wrote:
> >> On Sunday, June 28, 2015 9:44 PM, Martijn Faassen wrote:
> >> > Discussing something properly without having access to
> >> > the details is awkward, and I gave expression to that. It was not my
> >> > main point though. Glad to hear Facebook is good at sharing linked
> >> > data!
> >>
> >> >> To their credit, Facebook are pretty much the only system that give
> >> >> back 5 star linked data, via the open graph.
> >>
> >> Yep, no one critized that. I'm actually surprised that they didn't
> >> turn off that feature yet that was written by an intern (AFAIK) a
> >> couple of years ago and that is probably used very very few people.
> >
> > Dont knock interns!  I use this feature, at least.Bradfitz at your
> > company google promised to have machine readable profiles in FOAF
> > available.  That still hasnt happened.
>
> https://www.google.com/+MarkusLanthaler
>
> [] a schema:Person ;
>     schema:name "Markus Lanthaler"@en,
>         "Markus Lanthaler - Google+"@en ;
>     schema:description "Lives in Italy..."@en ;
>     schema:image <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/...> ;
>     schema:url "https://plus.google.com/+MarkusLanthaler"@en .
>
> ...
>
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> http://rdf-translator.appspot.com/convert/microdata/n3/html/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F%2BMarkusLanthaler
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> But this is really not we are discussing here.
>

Good points.  That's a neat extractor, but I personally dont consider that
5 star LD.  I dont want to go off topic, so I'll leave it at that.


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>
> > So a mere intern has created
> > 1.4 billion linked data profiles, where other companies have been left
> > behind.  If you think turning off a billion LD profiles is a good
> > idea, id suggest you've not really considered all the possibilities of
> > unexpected reuse.
>
> Nope, never said that. And I still don't understand why we are actually
> discussing this?
>
>
> >>>> In general, the JSON LD, Hydra etc. stuff doesnt do that, and that's
> >>>> not looking like changing anytime soon.
> >
> >> What is JSON-LD and Hydra not doing?
> >
> > Producing 5 star linked data for profiles, in the extended JSON LD /
> > Hydra eco systems.  If im wrong, can you point me to some, or even
> > one?
>
> JSON-LD and Hydra are technologies. They don't *do* anything. People can
> use them to do things. They can be used to produce "5 star linked data for
> profiles". They can be used for countless other things.
>
>
> >>>> Should the query language be RESTful?  Probably yes, tho isnt this
> >>>> similar to using SPARQL over GET?
> >
> >> A query language can't be "RESTful" but that's beside the point. The
> >> interface might, depending on how you look at it, look similar to
> >> SPARQL over GET.
> >
> > OK, makes sense.  I probably didnt phrase that very well.  I was
> > thinking about quersies that go sparql?query=... with GET potentially
> > being useful (if long) URIs.
>
> So?
>
>
> >>> IMHO, it's not of great utility, to design a RESTful query language
> >>> using LD, Hydra and LDF, when then underlying profiles, are not 5 star
> >>> LD.
> >
> > Sorry, I don't follow.
>
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