- From: Adrian Roselli <Roselli@algonquinstudios.com>
- Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 04:49:44 +0000
- To: Reinier Kaper <rp.kaper@gmail.com>
- CC: "public-html@w3.org" <public-html@w3.org>
> From: Reinier Kaper [mailto:rp.kaper@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 9:14 PM > [...] > > Okay so focussing on the semantics here, what would be the > most appropriate way to convey the meaning of the marked > text? In the content is where I am leaning right now. > Let's say we have a quoted piece of text and we want to > "take" a small part of it and elaborate on it. > > If there's no appropriate element for it, then one could be > created if there's enough use-cases. The mark element seems > to partially express the right meaning (e.g. "this piece is > of some sort of relevance"), but how do we link it to the > context? Right now (I know you are leading up to your example), I am thinking it becomes a footnote. I expect the content would all be available if styles and script fail to load -- assuming this is content that is key to understanding the text or conveying some information. At which point the <mark> just becomes a style hook...? > How about the following markup. How could we link the > 'marked' piece to the explanation? > (Granted, the mark-up is a little elaborate this way) > > <figure> > <blockquote> > <p> "I thought you said that you were only using a <mark> > half pound</mark> of pasta"</p> > <cite> John Doe</cite> > </blockquote> > <figcaption> The source of the confusion when John > accidentally boiled too much water for the pasta. He > mistakenly assumed only half a pound of pasta was used. > </figcaption> > </figure> The problem is that there is nothing to discretely link the <mark> to the <figcaption>. Include multiple <mark>s and now you have no clean way to differentiate them. Perhaps something like this? <blockquote> I thought you said you were only going to use a half pound <mark>[1]</mark> of pasta. Now whose <mark>[sic]</mark> going to eat all this stuff? Are you trying to make me fat? <mark>[2]</mark> <footer> <p>John to Cindy on Saturday night.</p> <p id="f1">This accounts for the 2 cups of water he boiled.</p> <p id="f2">Clearly he was being snarky.</p> </footer> </blockquote> (trying the <footer> approach instead of the <figure>) In this case, the <mark> can mark up the two footnotes (which could be links to the IDs below) as well as the [sic] which doesn't need any more detail. Which brings me back to thinking that <mark> (in this context) doesn't do anything a <span> couldn't do.
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