- From: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 16:44:19 +0100
- To: Cameron Jones <cmhjones@gmail.com>
- Cc: Willem-Siebe Spoelstra <info@spoelstra.ws>, HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CA+ri+VmwQSZEqsQ3tLwEbYCMyv8Zgf176H_JH+_SUoeTPAH7bw@mail.gmail.com>
hi cameron, -- Regards SteveF HTML 5.1 <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/> On 16 October 2013 16:38, Cameron Jones <cmhjones@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>wrote: > >> >> On 16 October 2013 16:19, Cameron Jones <cmhjones@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Steve Faulkner < >>> faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On 16 October 2013 16:08, Cameron Jones <cmhjones@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Steve Faulkner < >>>>> faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> 3) The arrows should not be content but CSS in my opinion. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> the arrows convey direction to sighted users and I think they should >>>>>> also convey direction to other users too, having them in text means that >>>>>> they are announced by AT for example. NVDA announces: (→ "right arrow") >>>>>> >>>>>> list with 4 items >>>>>> You are here: >>>>>> link >>>>>> Main >>>>>> → >>>>>> link >>>>>> Products >>>>>> → >>>>>> link >>>>>> Dishwashers >>>>>> → >>>>>> Second hand >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Is this really a good idea? Isn't this the same problem of mixing >>>>> style with structure? >>>>> >>>> >>>> ? the arrows have a meaning that meaning is conveyed regardless of >>>> style. >>>> >>> >>> >>> Only within the context of the set of breadcrumbs. >>> >> >> which the text label/heading indicates "you are here:" see the feedback >> from users here: http://davidmacd.com/test/breadcrumb.html >> > > It seems like the jury is split based on that sample. > from the linked doc: "Summary: 5 like "you a here", 2 prefer "Breadcrumb trail", 1 likes either" > > >> >>> If the set of breadcrumbs is already defined, then the arrows are noise. >>> >> >> actual user feedback on this point welcome >> >> > > I'm not suggesting that there is no notification of separator, but that > could be retained within the realm of a screen reader implementation than > requiring every website to include extraneous characters. > there is no requirement, its advice. many sites use '>' >I'm not suggesting that there is no notification of separator, but that could be retained within the realm of a screen reader implementation its not just for screen readers > > Thanks, > Cameron Jones >
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