- From: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 16:24:56 +0100
- To: Cameron Jones <cmhjones@gmail.com>
- Cc: Willem-Siebe Spoelstra <info@spoelstra.ws>, HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CA+ri+V=TUFrh76zMkPoPeZHXh3x1ptzbz9OHNKXVnxRis2gL9Q@mail.gmail.com>
-- Regards SteveF HTML 5.1 <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/> On 16 October 2013 16:19, Cameron Jones <cmhjones@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>wrote: > >> >> On 16 October 2013 16:08, Cameron Jones <cmhjones@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Steve Faulkner < >>> faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>> 3) The arrows should not be content but CSS in my opinion. >>>>> >>>> >>>> the arrows convey direction to sighted users and I think they should >>>> also convey direction to other users too, having them in text means that >>>> they are announced by AT for example. NVDA announces: (→ "right arrow") >>>> >>>> list with 4 items >>>> You are here: >>>> link >>>> Main >>>> → >>>> link >>>> Products >>>> → >>>> link >>>> Dishwashers >>>> → >>>> Second hand >>>> >>>> >>> Is this really a good idea? Isn't this the same problem of mixing style >>> with structure? >>> >> >> ? the arrows have a meaning that meaning is conveyed regardless of style. >> > > > Only within the context of the set of breadcrumbs. > which the text label/heading indicates "you are here:" see the feedback from users here: http://davidmacd.com/test/breadcrumb.html > > If the set of breadcrumbs is already defined, then the arrows are noise. > actual user feedback on this point welcome > > > >> >>> The style isn't a graphical style, but an auditory style. >>> >>> If aria roles are used to markup the breadcrumbs and then isn't the >>> screen reader able to describe the content in the appropriate fashion? >>> >> >> there is no role=breadcrumbs >> > > > Hmm...i would have thought this was an ideal candidate for a role="" > that as it may, its not. > > >> >>> <nav role="breadcrumbs"> >>> <ol>...</ol> >>> </nav> >>> >>> So, the announcement would be: >>> >>> "breadcrumb navigation" >>> "list with 4 items" >>> ... >>> >>> Seems better than requiring some plaintext construct to markup a list of >>> links. >>> >> >> where plain text does the job well why not use it? >> > > Because it isn't very semantic > i don't understand what you mean > > Thanks, > Cameron Jones >
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