Re: 4.13.1 Bread crumb navigation - use of right angle brackets

On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>wrote:

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> On 16 October 2013 16:08, Cameron Jones <cmhjones@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
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>>>
>>>> 3) The arrows should not be content but CSS in my opinion.
>>>>
>>>
>>> the arrows convey direction to sighted users and I think they should
>>> also convey direction to other users too, having them in text means that
>>> they are announced by AT for example. NVDA announces: (→ "right arrow")
>>>
>>> list with 4 items
>>> You are here:
>>> link
>>> Main
>>>  →
>>> link
>>> Products
>>>  →
>>> link
>>> Dishwashers
>>>  →
>>> Second hand
>>>
>>>
>> Is this really a good idea? Isn't this the same problem of mixing style
>> with structure?
>>
>
> ? the arrows have a meaning that meaning is conveyed regardless of style.
>


Only within the context of the set of breadcrumbs.

If the set of breadcrumbs is already defined, then the arrows are noise.



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>> The style isn't a graphical style, but an auditory style.
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>> If aria roles are used to markup the breadcrumbs and then isn't the
>> screen reader able to describe the content in the appropriate fashion?
>>
>
> there is no role=breadcrumbs
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Hmm...i would have thought this was an ideal candidate for a role=""


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>> <nav role="breadcrumbs">
>>     <ol>...</ol>
>> </nav>
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>> So, the announcement would be:
>>
>> "breadcrumb navigation"
>> "list with 4 items"
>> ...
>>
>> Seems better than requiring some plaintext construct to markup a list of
>> links.
>>
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>  where plain text does the job well why not use it?
>

Because it isn't very semantic

Thanks,
Cameron Jones