- From: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 15:02:23 +0000
- To: Robin Berjon <robin@w3.org>
- Cc: tink@tink.co.uk, HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CA+ri+VmjF+p1YoSHnF+LDWO2cOUQmtmnw_AWQek3exAz_CSc5g@mail.gmail.com>
>Chatting with Steve, we wonder if the rule shouldn't be: a section must have either a heading, or aria-label(ledby). a potential sticking point is use of ARIA in HTML conformance rules, have been told in past that is a no no with regards -- SteveF HTML 5.1 <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/> <http://www.paciellogroup.com/resources/wat-ie-about.html> On 21 March 2013 14:39, Robin Berjon <robin@w3.org> wrote: > On 21/03/2013 15:15 , Léonie Watson wrote: > >> The lockerz.com homepage has 108 regions (screen readers use the region >> role >> mapping to report section elements). That's 216 announcements on a single >> page. >> > > Actually I'm counting 149 :) > > > One example on the lockerz.com homepage causes my screen reader to >> announce >> the following: >> >> "Region" >> "Region" >> "Region" >> "Region" >> "Region" >> "Region" >> "Link graphic W310/**image0013620927118302ukw51" >> "Region end" >> "Region" >> > > Yes, that's exactly the problem I was thinking of. > > So far the only negative feedback we've received is that in books or > papers it is common to have something that is logically a section not have > a title, for instance a dedication or an abstract. > > While that's a valid concern, I tend to think that from an a11y it's > pretty unhelpful. Such section are visually distinguished (say with page > breaks or italics) but without the visual queues you have to read them to > know what they are. > > Chatting with Steve, we wonder if the rule shouldn't be: a section must > have either a heading, or aria-label(ledby). > > > -- > Robin Berjon - http://berjon.com/ - @robinberjon > >
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