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Re: <subline> becomes <subhead> and other updates

From: Jukka K. Korpela <jukka.k.korpela@kolumbus.fi>
Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2013 19:04:01 +0300
Message-ID: <51B355F1.2080403@kolumbus.fi>
To: public-html@w3.org
2013-06-08 16:21, Steve Faulkner wrote:
> <subline> becomes <subhead> and other updates 
> http://rawgithub.com/w3c/subline/master/index.html<http://t.co/xWQE2owXRm>

I still wonder what is the problem that such proposals are supposed to 

Surely there are often parts of headings that might be classified as 
"subheads", for example. Or they might seen as parts of headings styled 
differently. Is there some need to force authors into using one specific 
markup for them, as opposite to dealing with it with <small> or <span> 
or whatever? Even if this means that *no* currently used browser 
supports such markup?

If the problem being solved is authors' question "which markup should I 
use for...", then I would say that such a problem needs no solution in 
the form of a new markup element. People have solved such problems over 
20 years, with whatever HTML elements are available. There is no need 
for unification, partly because there is no objectively definable, 
reasonably exact definition for the structure that the new elements are 
supposed to indicate.

I would like to draw your attention to the book that has probably the 
best-known title with "sublines", The Origin of Species: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Origin_of_Species_title_page.jpg The 
book cover has a longish heading presented in four or five different 
font sizes, divided in a manner that would presumably call not only for 
<subhead> but also <subsubhead> and <subsubsubhead>, if we think that 
any part of a heading that *could* be viewed as being structurally 
different from the rest *must* be marked up with a tag that indicates that.

Yucca, http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/
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