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Re: HTML-A11Y Task Force Consensus on Issue-204 (Updated)

From: Jonas Sicking <jonas@sicking.cc>
Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 23:36:36 -0700
Message-ID: <CA+c2ei8i1d0BMFx=EPgF1GxJpHYXpR7xHvJhZn0OfiKfiFDjdg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Jonas Sicking <jonas@sicking.cc>, "Edward O'Connor" <eoconnor@apple.com>, Cynthia Shelly <cyns@microsoft.com>, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, "public-html@w3.org" <public-html@w3.org>, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>, Frank Olivier <Frank.Olivier@microsoft.com>, "W3C WAI Protocols & Formats" <w3c-wai-pf@w3.org>, Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org>
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> wrote:
> The WAI Protocols and Formats Working Group strongly objects to any RFC
> 2119 normative requirements on WAI-ARIA markup in HTML Working Group
> specifications. Normative WAI-ARIA requirements are the chartered
> responsibility of PF-WG and are out of scope for HTML-WG.  In other
> words, "might" or "may" statements are acceptable, but "should" and
> "must" statements are not.

This seems inconsistent with the HTML a11y Task Force which previously
promoted change proposals which had MUST requirements stating that
only the flattened accessibility tree should be exposed.

> Please note that PF-WG is not now objecting to, nor expressing a
> judgement of the technical merit of the proposed language.  Rather, it
> simply avers that the appropriate PF-WG locus of normative WAI-ARIA
> requirements on user agents is its forthcoming publication, "WAI-ARIA
> User Agent Implementation Guide (UAIG)."
>
> http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-implementation/
>
> Comments on the UAIG are welcome. Indeed, a (second) Last Call
> announcement for the UAIG is expected in a few weeks.
>
> Moreover, while the UAIG is a PF-WG publication, it is a named
> deliverable of the joint PF-WG and HTML-WG  WAI-ARIA User Agent
> Implementation Task Force
>
> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-ua-task-force
>
> HTML-WG members are now, and have always been, most welcome to work with
> PF-WG members on perfecting this document.

Does this mean that the UAIG is going to have normative statements
regarding how the HTML5 @hidden attribute interacts with
aria-describedby? The interaction needs to be defined somewhere.

/ Jonas
Received on Thursday, 31 May 2012 06:37:36 UTC

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