- From: Glenn Adams <glenn@skynav.com>
- Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 10:34:40 -0600
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s/UNKNOWN_SPEAKER/janina/ On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Glenn Adams <glenn@skynav.com> wrote: > Draft minutes are at http://www.w3.org/2012/03/22-html-wg-minutes.html. > Text version follows: > > > > - DRAFT - > > HTML Weekly Teleconference > > 22 Mar 2012 > > [2]Agenda > > [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012JanMar/0027.html > > See also: [3]IRC log > > [3] http://www.w3.org/2012/03/22-html-wg-irc > > Attendees > > Present > glenn, eliot, hober, Sam, +1.415.832.aaaa, krisk, paulc, > Judy, [Microsoft], adrianba, Cynthia_Shelly, tantek > > Chair > sam (rubys) > > Scribe > glenn > > Contents > > * [4]Topics > 1. [5]ACTION items due by Thursday, March 22 > 2. [6]New Issues This Week > 3. [7]Items Closed Last Week > 4. [8]Items Closing This Week > 5. [9]Items Closing Next Week > 6. [10]New Calls this week > 7. [11]New Surveys this week > 8. [12]Decisions this week > 9. [13]Task Force Reports > 10. [14]Other Business > 11. [15]Scribe for next meeting > 12. [16]Adjournment > * [17]Summary of Action Items > __________________________________________________________ > > <trackbot> Date: 22 March 2012 > > <tantek> greetings > > morning > > <scribe> Scribe: glenn > > <tantek> now that is hilarious > > i guess i should talk to myself at this point ... ;) > > <rubys> trackbot, start meeting > > <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference > > <trackbot> Date: 22 March 2012 > > <scribe> Chair: rubys > > <scribe> Scribe: glenn > > <scribe> Agenda: > [18]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce > /2012JanMar/0027.html > > [18] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012JanMar/0027.html > > ACTION items due by Thursday, March 22 > > None > > New Issues This Week > > None > > Items Closed Last Week > > ISSUE-187: validity-stability, Agree/Disagree to Amicable > Resolution closed Mar 13 > > [19]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/022 > 5.html > > [19] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0225.html > > <trackbot> ISSUE-187 Document conformance has to be stable over > the time notes added > > rubys: no objections > > ISSUE-80 was incorrectly included > > <rubys> > [20]http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html#ISSUE-080 > > [20] http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html#ISSUE-080 > > ISSUE-131: caret-location-API, Call for Counter Proposals > closed Mar 14 > > [21]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/020 > 9.html > > [21] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0209.html > > <trackbot> ISSUE-131 Should we add a caret location API to > canvas, or is the focus API sufficient? notes added > > ISSUE-158: object-content-model, Call for Counter Proposals > closes Mar 14 > > [22]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/019 > 8.html > > [22] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0198.html > > <trackbot> ISSUE-158 HTML4's content-model for <object> should > continue notes added > > ISSUE-205: text-editing-canvas, Call for Counter Proposals > closed Mar 14 > > [23]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/020 > 8.html > > [23] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0208.html > > <trackbot> ISSUE-205 Define what author guidance and/or methods > should be provided to those that wish to create accessible text > editors using canvas as a rendering surface. notes added > > ISSUE-179: av_param, Agree/Disagree to Amicable Resolution > closed Mar 15 > > [24]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/027 > 7.html > > [24] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0277.html > > <trackbot> ISSUE-179 {audio,video} require param child (or > equivalent) notes added > > Items Closing This Week > > ISSUE-193: inaccessible-example, Call for Counter Proposals > closes Mar 21 > > [25]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/026 > 4.html > > [25] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0264.html > > <trackbot> ISSUE-193 Remove CSS example that promotes > inaccessible content notes added > > rubys: will go to CfC shortly > > ISSUE-194: full-transcript, Call for Counter Proposals closes > Mar 21 > > [26]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/026 > 6.html > > [26] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0266.html > > <trackbot> ISSUE-194 Provide a mechanism for associating a full > transcript with an audio or video element. notes added > > rubys: have two extension requests > > ISSUE-195: form-http-req, Call for Counter Proposals closes Mar > 21 > > [27]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/026 > 3.html > > [27] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0263.html > > <trackbot> ISSUE-195 Enhance http request generation from forms > notes added > > rubys: two proposals, chairs will evaluate > > ISSUE-196: ua-http-resp-handling, Call for Counter Proposals > closes Mar 21 > > [28]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/026 > 8.html > > [28] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0268.html > > <trackbot> ISSUE-196 Define user agent http response handling > behaviour notes added > > rubys: no counters, next step CfC > > ISSUE-197: accept-file-ext, Call for Counter Proposals closes > Mar 21 > > <trackbot> ISSUE-197 Accept attribute should allow file > extensions in addition to the current allowed values notes > added > > [29]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/026 > 5.html > > [29] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0265.html > > ISSUE-199: aria-processing, Call for Counter Proposals closes > Mar 21 > > [30]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/026 > 9.html > > [30] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0269.html > > <trackbot> ISSUE-199 Define complete processing requirements > for ARIA attributes notes added > > rubys: will evaluate > > ISSUE-201: canvas-fallback, Call for Counter Proposals closes > Mar 21 > > [31]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/026 > 7.html > > [31] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0267.html > > <trackbot> ISSUE-201 Provide canvas location and hit testing > capability to fallback content notes added > > rubys: has ext request > > ISSUE-190: coding-example, Call for Consensus closes Mar 23 > > [32]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/046 > 3.html > > [32] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0463.html > > <trackbot> ISSUE-190 Replace poor coding example for figure > with multiple images notes added > > rubys: CfC closes tomorrow > > Items Closing Next Week > > ISSUE-80: title-alternative, Call for Consensus closes Mar 28 > > [33]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/060 > 3.html > > [33] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0603.html > > <trackbot> ISSUE-80 document conformance and device dependent > display of title attribute content notes added > > ISSUE-134: tab-states, Revise Change Proposals closes Mar 28 > > [34]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/054 > 7.html > > [34] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0547.html > > <trackbot> ISSUE-134 Provide tablist and tab states for menu > and command elements respectively notes added > > ISSUE-191: ins-del, Revise Change Proposals closes Mar 28 > > [35]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/012 > 8.html > > [35] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0128.html > > <trackbot> ISSUE-191 Replace/complement <ins> and <del> > elements by a cleaner wysiwyg-safe attribute-based solution > notes added > > ISSUE-200: legend-placement, Call for Counter Proposals closes > Mar 28 > > [36]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/046 > 6.html > > [36] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0466.html > > <trackbot> ISSUE-200 Allow wrapping LEGEND (or new iLEGEND) in > non-FIELDSET elements notes added > > New Calls this week > > None > > rubys: double checking... > ... two issued > ... that weren't in agenda > > <rubys> > [37]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/060 > 2.html > > [37] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0602.html > > ISSUE-204? > > <trackbot> ISSUE-204 -- Exempt ARIA attributes from the rule > that prohibits reference to hidden elements -- open > > <trackbot> [38]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/204 > > [38] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/204 > > rubys: call for alternate CPs or counter CPs > > <rubys> > [39]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/060 > 3.html > > [39] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0603.html > > ISSUE-80? > > <trackbot> ISSUE-80 -- document conformance and device > dependent display of title attribute content -- open > > <trackbot> [40]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/80 > > [40] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/80 > > rubys: CfC > > New Surveys this week > > None > > Decisions this week > > Close ISSUE-170 rel-uri-valid by Amicable Resolution > > [41]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/055 > 3.html > > [41] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0553.html > > Close ISSUE-179 av_param by Amicable Resolution > > [42]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/055 > 4.html > > [42] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0554.html > > Close ISSUE-182 footnote-recommendation by Amicable Resolution > > [43]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/055 > 5.html > > [43] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0555.html > > Close ISSUE-187 validity-stability by Amicable Resolution > > [44]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/055 > 6.html > > [44] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0556.html > > Close ISSUE-188: generic-track-format by Amicable Resolution > > [45]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/055 > 7.html > > [45] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0557.html > > Close ISSUE-192 title-attribute by Amicable Resolution > > [46]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/055 > 8.html > > [46] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0558.html > > rubys: questions or comments? > > Task Force Reports > > Testing Task Force > > krisk: met last week, will meet again on 27th > > <krisk> Notes -> > [47]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2 > 012Mar/0005.html > > [47] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2012Mar/0005.html > > krisk: won't fix bug that existed > > <krisk> > [48]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=15042 > > [48] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=15042 > > krisk: canvas tests, listed in notes > > <krisk> Microsoft submitting some Progress and Range Tests > > rubys: questions? > > Accessibility Task Force > > janina: two main items > > <scribe> ... new canvas section coming from editor > > UNKNOWN_SPEAKER: not everything is clear, but one thing is > clear: straying into approaches inconsistent with html5 time > line > ... at least for good a11y support > ... so this is a concern > ... second avenue, aria attribute (ARIA 1.1) draft... > ... like longdesc (ISSUE-30) > ... summarize as some people still want to develop longdesc > ... the describe-at attr should apply to more elements than img > ... aimed at markup, not just html > ... e.g. svg > ... not quite settled > ... maybe 'obsolete but conforming' is acceptable > ... a11y still thinks longdesc is needed today > ... longdesc is implemented, but inconsistently > ... that's it for now > > rubys: doesn't believe current proposals describe longdesc as > obsolete but conforming > > janina: correct > > rubys: may need new CP or modification > > janina: expects laura is not in favor of "that" > ... can beef up proposals > > <Judy> s/"that"/obsolete but conforming > > janina: not to fix described-by but fix ? > ... come up with other additional attribute > > <Judy> s/"that?"/obsolete but conforming/ > > janina: thinks current CP covers problem with described-by > > rubys: questions? comments? > > judy: side note: janina has coord request with Paul, but trying > to schedule > > paulc: glad to try > > rubys: other questions? comments? > > Other Business > > CfC: Publish ten heartbeat drafts as WDs > > [49]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/024 > 7.html > > [49] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0247.html > > Revert request r7023 > > [50]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/049 > 1.html > > [50] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0491.html > > rubys: extension request, chairs trying to sort out > > F2F registration page > > [51]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/048 > 8.html > > [51] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0488.html > > rubys: everybody should register > ... AOB? > > adrianba: ISSUE-180? > > ISSUE-180? > > <trackbot> ISSUE-180 -- Add "allow-popups" for iframe@sandbox > -- open > > <trackbot> [52]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/180 > > [52] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/180 > > <adrianba> > [53]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/051 > 1.html > > [53] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0511.html > > scribe: unable to implement decision due to lack of information > ... CP should have all details > ... no feedback stating otherwise > ... wonders about status of this work > > rubys: not yet applied to spec > ... knows of no specific request for clarification, etc. > > Scribe for next meeting > > paulc: will be chairing > > rubys: is ted available for next meeting? > > ted: yes > ... volunteers for next meeting > > Adjournment > > adjourned > > trackbot, end meeting > > Summary of Action Items > > [End of minutes] > __________________________________________________________ > > > Minutes formatted by David Booth's [54]scribe.perl version > 1.136 ( [55]CVS log) > $Date: 2012/03/22 16:25:16 $ > __________________________________________________________ > > [54] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm > [55] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/ > > Scribe.perl diagnostic output > > [Delete this section before finalizing the minutes.] > This is scribe.perl Revision: 1.136 of Date: 2011/05/12 12:01:43 > Check for newer version at > [56]http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/ > > [56] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/ > > Guessing input format: RRSAgent_Text_Format (score 1.00) > > Succeeded: s/27h/27th/ > Succeeded: s/janina?/janina/ > Succeeded: s/proposal/draft/ > FAILED: s/"that"/obsolete but conforming/ > Succeeded: s/?// > FAILED: s/"that?"/obsolete but conforming/ > Found Scribe: glenn > Inferring ScribeNick: glenn > Found Scribe: glenn > Inferring ScribeNick: glenn > Default Present: glenn, eliot, hober, Sam, +1.415.832.aaaa, krisk, paul > c, Judy, [Microsoft], adrianba, Cynthia_Shelly, tantek > Present: glenn eliot hober Sam +1.415.832.aaaa krisk paulc Judy [Micros > oft] adrianba Cynthia_Shelly tantek > Agenda: > [57]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012Jan > Mar/0027.html <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012JanMar/0027.html> > Found Date: 22 Mar 2012 > Guessing minutes URL: > [58]http://www.w3.org/2012/03/22-html-wg-minutes.html > People with action items: > > [57] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012JanMar/0027.html > [58] http://www.w3.org/2012/03/22-html-wg-minutes.html > > > End of [59]scribe.perl diagnostic output] > > [59] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm > > > > >
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