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Re: CP, ISSUE-30: Link longdesc to role of img [Was: hypothetical question on longdesc]

From: John Foliot <john@foliot.ca>
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 17:30:47 -0700
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To: singer@apple.com
Cc: silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com, janina@rednote.net, xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no, rubys@intertwingly.net, laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com, mjs@apple.com, paul.cotton@microsoft.com, public-html-a11y@w3.org, public-html@w3.org
Except for when your b) assertion is NOT a frame from the video, but a different, author chosen and supplied image, referenced via @poster. Yes, a longer text description is required for the media (as well), but users are asking for both, and we should be able to provide both. This is not an aria-label, this is a rich textual description of both visual assets.


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Subject: Re: CP, ISSUE-30: Link longdesc to role of img [Was: hypothetical  question on longdesc] 
From: David Singer <singer@apple.com> 
To: John Foliot <john@foliot.ca> 
CC: silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com,janina@rednote.net,xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no,rubys@intertwingly.net,laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com,mjs@apple.com,paul.cotton@microsoft.com,public-html-a11y@w3.org,public-html@w3.org 

On Mar 20, 2012, at 17:04 , John Foliot wrote:

> With all due respect David, that is not what a number of blind users have told me: they want to know both, and they also recognize that the image, while related to the video, may very well require its own textual description.
> I am somewhat frustrated when sighted engineers keep asserting what non-sighted users need and want: have you bothered to ask *them*?

I am not saying that they don't need the information.  Of course they need the information.  

I am saying (a) that providing the 2-bits of the poster information without the kilobytes of video information has the wrong priorities and (b) we're confused if we think a still image of a stopped video is something distinct from the video.

David Singer
Multimedia and Software Standards, Apple Inc.
Received on Wednesday, 21 March 2012 00:31:39 UTC

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