- From: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
- Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 14:32:47 +0100
- To: Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>
- Cc: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>, public-html@w3.org
Sam Ruby, Tue, 20 Mar 2012 06:25:36 -0400: > On 03/20/2012 02:43 AM, Leif Halvard Silli wrote: > First: is there any way that the people who are working on these > proposals (in this case this includes, but is no limited to: Laura > and Leif) can work together to converge on a single proposal? I will co-operate in the following way: If Laura/the A11Y TF don't support it or suggests integrating [bits of] it in the other CP, then I'll withdraw it. > Second: what we will need in order to proceed here is use cases that > directly and specifically require the addition(s) described in the > Change Proposal. Given that e.g. AT will see e.g. an <object data=img role=img> as virtually no different from an <img> element, aren't those use cases covered already? The only thing 'extra' is the question about why to use e.g <object data=img role=img> instead of <img src=img> in the first place. But those reasons - of which I could think of a few - such as flash images and fallback from object to img element etc. But these reasons are not, it seems to me, linked to ISSUE-30. > Testimonial that some are willing to implemented it > (both authors and implementors) would also help your case. I don't know how much buy-in from implementers would be possible for longdesc on object, embed and canvas. I think we already have a level of implementation of <iframe @longdesc>. Would it be sufficient with use cases? Or must UA/AT support demonstrated to? > Failing > that, I suspect that the answer would be that at this time, this is > best addressed either in an extension spec or in a subsequent release > of HTML. > > Compare the use cases that were linked to by the original longdesc > change proposal: > http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/index.php?title=LongdescRetention&oldid=7512#Use_Cases > > Against the ones that were provided by the revised proposal: > > http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/InstateLongdesc/UseCases Again, I only cover img, iframe, object, canvas with role=img. To me the usecases thus seems the same. What is not the same, is related to the preference of one element over another. Do you want documentation for that? -- leif h silli
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