- From: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
- Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 19:03:03 +1100
- To: Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis <bhawkeslewis@googlemail.com>
- Cc: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>, "Tab Atkins Jr." <jackalmage@gmail.com>, Mark Watson <watsonm@netflix.com>, Glenn Adams <glenn@skynav.com>, Charles Pritchard <chuck@jumis.com>, David Dorwin <ddorwin@google.com>, Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi>, "<public-html@w3.org>" <public-html@w3.org>
Captions from a track element would be displayed even if the player has no controls attribute IIRC. You get that for free in html5 (once implemented) burnout from a flash canvas. Silvia. On 16/03/2012, at 6:33 PM, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis <bhawkeslewis@googlemail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Steve Faulkner > <faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote: >> Removing the flash dependency would result in native capabilities for >> interacting with media built in to the browser. >> For example, in Firefox both the audio and video elements default controls >> can be operated using the keyboard. >> The controls while not represented in the DOM are represented in the >> accessibility tree so that assistive technology can provide access to users >> This is not the case with Flash on non windows platfroms.. > > [snip] > >> Note: this is not an argument for or against CDM's, it's an argument for >> providing use of native HTML5 video and audio over embedded inaccessible >> functionality. > > We are providing that through the <video> element and a Fullscreen API. > > The sort of DRM-dependent video sites we're talking about typically do > not practice progressive enhancement (relying on JS being enabled) and > build their own chrome to control, brand, and monetise the user > experience, so I suspect users will not benefit from the accessibility > of the default controls for their content. > > Out of YouTube, Hulu, BBC IPlayer, Daily Motion, MetaCafe, and Yahoo! > Screen only in MetaCafe and Yahoo! Screen can you even play videos > with JS off, and MetaCafe's thumbnails are not loaded. They all build > their own chrome and it's not clear they'd be happy to surface videos > without it. (For example, how would they play an ad before the > video…). > > Such sites could provide the accessibility controls you describe by > using Flash as a non-interactive canvas, including in fullscreen as > browsers adopt: > > http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/fullscreen/raw-file/tip/Overview.html > > The DRM proposal under discussion won't even promote progressive > enhancement, since it introduces a dependency on a JS API. > > In summary, I'm not convinced the DRM proposal will translate into > significant accessibility improvements. I'd prefer browsers put their > efforts into fullscreen support. > > -- > Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis >
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