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Re: ISSUE-204: aria-hidden - Chairs Solicit Proposals (was: Chair review of "Keep Longdesc Deprecated")

From: Matthew Turvey <mcturvey@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:03:00 +0000
Message-ID: <CAFp5+ArJphq3ZWseYPS4MfXpp83KC2J5DRFXTRZ2jNof5v-2Rw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis <bhawkeslewis@googlemail.com>
Cc: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>, Jonas Sicking <jonas@sicking.cc>, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>, "public-html@w3.org LIST" <public-html@w3.org>

Thanks very much for taking the time to provide good feedback. Before
going any further I'd like to see whether it's possible to reach
amicable consensus on this issue.

In my personal opinion, the W3C should be focusing on universal
design, not segregation, in HTML5.

However, the HTML-A11Y-TF felt compelled to formally object to HTML5
Last Call unless longdesc was included as a conforming feature, and
WAI are now apparently working on a new aria-describedat attribute to
provide the same function.

This is despite no one being able to come up with any use cases that
specifically require longdesc after 15 years of discussion:


So this CP provides a way to easily separate the "providing
programmatically determinable long descriptions" requirement from the
WAI/HTML-A11Y-TF's "hide them from sighted users" requirement, while
still allowing both requirements to be satisfied if needed. This seems
to me to be a reasonable compromise that everyone could support.

Is anyone planning to write a change proposal arguing against allowing
ARIA to reference @hidden content? Or can the HTMLWG agree amicable
consensus on this issue and move on?

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