- From: Tab Atkins Jr. <jackalmage@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 11:26:59 -0800
- To: Glenn Adams <glenn@skynav.com>
- Cc: Kornel <kornel@geekhood.net>, public-html@w3.org
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 11:05 PM, Glenn Adams <glenn@skynav.com> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 11:07 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. <jackalmage@gmail.com> > wrote: >> On Mar 5, 2012 7:41 PM, "Glenn Adams" <glenn@skynav.com> wrote: >> > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 8:00 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. <jackalmage@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> >> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Glenn Adams <glenn@skynav.com> wrote: >> >> > 2012/3/5 Tab Atkins Jr. <jackalmage@gmail.com> >> >> >> Precisely. We don't need to "burn down the town" (to use your >> >> >> words); >> >> >> we just need to maintain the status quo until copyright owners are >> >> >> willing to come to the table with more reasonable expectations and >> >> >> use >> >> >> the technology we're already providing them. >> >> > >> >> > The reasonableness of content owner expectations is not an issue we >> >> > can >> >> > determine here. If you wish to go off and create a restrictive W3C >> >> > doppleganger, then feel free to do so. In the mean time, the W3C >> >> > members >> >> > will choose what makes sense for the majority as opposed to a >> >> > stentorian >> >> > minority. >> >> >> >> I notice that you used the term "W3C members" rather than the more >> >> usual terms "implementors", "UAs", or "browser vendors". Are you >> >> under the mistaken impression that buying a W3C membership grants the >> >> ability to control what goes into browsers? >> > >> > >> > No. >> >> All right, just checking. Your wording simply seemed odd to me. >> >> > Are you under the mistaken impression that a minority of browser >> > implementors can dictate what the market needs or can use? >> >> The browser vendors do indeed get to "dictate" what web technologies the >> market can use, since they're the ones implementing those techs. > > Browser vendors are not privileged as a market entity. They respond to the > market as they choose, just as users select browser vendors based on their > ability to meet their needs. > > Browser vendors do not speak with the same voice. They represent diverse > interests and goals, and they play into the market as well. > > I'm almost certain that a majority of browser vendors have an interest in > supporting the needs represented by the proposal being discussed. Since > Google is a co-sponsor of the proposal, I have to assume that the views you > have expressed here are your personal views and are not representative of > your employer's official position. Google does not have an official position on this. One of our employees is a co-editor and at least one other has expressed support. I and Hixie have expressed dismay. Similar to Mozilla, we rarely speak with a corporate voice; we are too large and have too many interests to reasonably do so. ~TJ
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