- From: Charles Pritchard <chuck@jumis.com>
- Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:31:30 -0800
- To: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
- CC: Jonas Sicking <jonas@sicking.cc>, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>, public-html@w3.org
On 2/12/2012 5:22 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: > On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Charles Pritchard<chuck@jumis.com> wrote: >> > On 2/12/2012 3:42 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: >>>> >>> >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> > Jonas, you have a different perspective too. That's OK, too. Multiple >>>>> >>> > viewpoints are a good thing. We are fleshing out real issues in this >>>>> >>> > process. >>> >> >>> >> It sounds like your only objection to allowing aria-describedby to >>> >> point to @hidden elements is that it will delay publishing a finalized >>> >> HTML5 spec. That is certainly an understandable argument, though given >>> >> the extreme inertia for changing semantics of existing features, I'd >>> >> rather spec the @hidden attribute correction from the beginning, than >>> >> wait to fix it in HTML6. >> > >> > >> > My comment was intended as: we should wait to break current behavior, until >> > HTML6. > You keep saying that it will beak current behaviour. But that's not > the case. The @longdesc is only deprecated, it is not removed from > HTML5. All browsers will continue to support it. The only difference It was in reference to trying to alter the dynamics of the @hidden attribute. I'm more concerned about breaking @hidden than anything in @longdesc. Last year, I thought that we may be able to deprecate @longdesc with ARIA, but after a few threads and some work with ARIA flow, I no longer hold that view. That said, I don't use @longdesc. I do use display: none. It's a critical primitive. @longdesc only applies to one element. I'm sorry, this thread has really covered a lot of different topics and gotten lost. As a few have pointed out, @longdesc will go up to be challenged again. So it goes. I hope we've very cautious with @hidden. -Charles
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