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Re: Canvas uses requiring accessibility support

From: Jonas Sicking <jonas@sicking.cc>
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 20:49:40 -0800
Message-ID: <CA+c2ei8pmc5kus1M8Yq08LnN66kSbc2Sp7uOHEzwGSnHSckvSg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
Cc: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>, HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch> wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Nov 2011, Jonas Sicking wrote:
>> However since Ian started the page, I'll leave it to him to say if he
>> agrees with this reasoning and if it would be ok to change the
>> introduction of the wiki page to reflect it.
> Your reasining seems about right, though it sounds like I'd be a little
> more ready to err on the side of "using canvas for this is just
> inappropriate" than you would. For example, it seems quite clear to me
> that trying to write a word processor in canvas, for instance, is just a
> fool's errand. The list of reasons why it's a bad idea are extensively
> documented, including in the spec itself which gives a 16-item bulleted
> list of reasons to not do a text editor in canvas.
> Canvas has legitimate use cases, as does much of HTML, but that doesn't
> mean we should support _all_ use cases for _all_ features. For example,
> it's inappropriate to use an image map to make a checkbox, and we
> shouldn't support such a use case for image maps. It's inappropriate to
> use <h1>s to make a list, and we shouldn't support that use case for
> headings. It's inapproriate to use <span style=""> to make a coloured
> ASCII art penguin, and we shouldn't support that use case for <span>. We
> should only support use cases for elements where they make sense.
> Filling out the "Limitations" section of the wiki page would be hugely
> helpful in determining how we can improve canvas:
>   http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Canvas#Limitations_of_real-world_use_cases
> Note: Just putting links in the use cases section is not sufficient.


Steve: based on this it sounds like you can go ahead and fill out
examples of canvas use in the first section, and descriptions of the
shortcomings in the second section.


/ Jonas
Received on Thursday, 24 November 2011 04:50:38 UTC

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