- From: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 12:02:40 +1000
- To: Philippe Le Hegaret <plh@w3.org>
- Cc: Karl Dubost <karld@opera.com>, Leonard Rosenthol <lrosenth@adobe.com>, Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi>, "tmichel@w3.org" <tmichel@w3.org>, "public-html@w3.org" <public-html@w3.org>, "public-media-annotation@w3.org" <public-media-annotation@w3.org>, www-archive@w3.org
Ha! I've managed to offend everyone and it's now also on www-archive@w3.org. :-) But seriously: we were talking about introducing an API for media elements into HTML and I was arguing on this background. Any other format is irrelevant in this context, but in particular formats that Web browser don't even interpret natively. I was defining the "Web" on that background and most certainly very tightly. I am sure in the general case you will define that term more broadly, but that was just irrelevant in the context of the thread, which I used it for. I was trying to make a point about the relevance of that API. Anyway - apologies to everyone who took that as an offense. Best Regards, Silvia. On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Philippe Le Hegaret <plh@w3.org> wrote: > On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 07:32 +1000, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: >> Only in the way that PDF, smil, flash, or any other non-HTML content can be called "web content". > > I don't think that the folks involved in svg, css, or js would be happy > to read this. :) > > Anything that can be put on an HTTP server is contributing to the > content of the Web. For sure, some data formats have more value than > others, because they have different properties (open, hypertext links, > widely used, supported in major Web browser, etc.), but there's still on > the Web and are still Web content. For example, the content provided by > sites like youtube is web content, whether you like their use of flash > or not. Web applications are also part of the Web as well, despite the > fact that most of them don't provide links to reference their state, and > therefore are unfriendly to HTTP cache servers or SEO engines. > >> IMO they are not a native part of the web, but an adjunct and require extra plugins to work in the Web browser. > > They're part of the Web, but they are certainly not as valuable as the > most deployed features of HTML. The HTML track element has currently > less value than XSLT on the Web, just because it's not as well deployed, > but still it's part of the Web and its value will increase in the > rapidly upcoming years. SMIL never found its way into major Web browsers > nor did it manage to deploy a significant set of clients, thus its value > is more limited than HTML. Content that is served by a Web server and is > only usable in one specific iphone app has almost no value on the Web, > but the value of this web content is still not 0. > > For sure, the most valuable Web content is content that is specified by > a royalty-free widely-used interoperable deployed and well implemented > HTTP-friendly IRI-friendly open standard specification. > > Philippe > > >
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