Re: ISSUE-155 counter proposal

Ian Hickson, Wed, 23 Mar 2011 04:06:47 +0000 (UTC):
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> RATIONALE
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> Non-CSS UAs [ snip ] can already draw table 
> borders on tables, so adding a presentational attribute for this purpose 
> adds nothing for them. [...]

What use is there in having non-CSS UAs that are able to draw borders, 
if authors aren't allowed to use the very HTML feature that triggers 
them to actually draw them?

Non-CSS UAS do not draw a single border unless one sets the border 
attribute to a non-zero value. The default styling of tables, is to not 
display the border.

I use your definition of Non-CSS UAs: [1]

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	3.	User agents without CSS support or without scripting support, and 
certainly without ATs, which always use the default semantics of the 
elements.
Some examples of #3 are the text-based browsers, most search engines, 
and graphical browsers in which CSS or scripting are disabled.
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[1] 
http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Change_Proposal_for_ISSUE-129#Bugs_8000_and_10448:_Allow_links_to_be_described_as_scroll_bars.2C_buttons_to_be_described_as_progress_bars.2C_etc
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leif halvard silli