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Re: ISSUE-155 counter proposal

From: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 11:13:51 +0100
To: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
Cc: public-html@w3.org
Message-ID: <20110323111351757513.84a774d6@xn--mlform-iua.no>
Ian Hickson, Wed, 23 Mar 2011 04:06:47 +0000 (UTC):

> Non-CSS UAs [ snip ] can already draw table 
> borders on tables, so adding a presentational attribute for this purpose 
> adds nothing for them. [...]

What use is there in having non-CSS UAs that are able to draw borders, 
if authors aren't allowed to use the very HTML feature that triggers 
them to actually draw them?

Non-CSS UAS do not draw a single border unless one sets the border 
attribute to a non-zero value. The default styling of tables, is to not 
display the border.

I use your definition of Non-CSS UAs: [1]

	3.	User agents without CSS support or without scripting support, and 
certainly without ATs, which always use the default semantics of the 
Some examples of #3 are the text-based browsers, most search engines, 
and graphical browsers in which CSS or scripting are disabled.

leif halvard silli
Received on Wednesday, 23 March 2011 10:14:29 UTC

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