- From: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
- Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 13:22:15 +0200
- To: Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis <bhawkeslewis@googlemail.com>
- Cc: John Foliot <jfoliot@stanford.edu>, HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>
Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis, Tue, 26 Apr 2011 10:16:32 +0100: > On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 2:57 AM, Leif Halvard Silli wrote: >> iCab does show a "default visual encumbrance" for images with @longdesc. > > The user has to take a special action (hovering over the image) to > display the > encumbrance (a cursor change), so it's not "default". That's the same for many links: until you hover above them, you don't see it is a link. The styling of links is up to CSS. The same goes for :hover styles. > If we accepted iCab's behavior as a "default visual encumbrance", we'd need > to reject all Laura's examples of long descriptions with "No Forced Visual > Encumbrance or Default Visual Indicator". > > http://www.d.umn.edu/~lcarlson/research/ld.html#noclutter Sorry, but I don't quite follow. I'd say iCab's behaviour is compatible with what she writes. I'll also say that, when looking at the longdesc bug(s) in Mozilla, it seemed exactly the 'context-menu' cursor issue caused a lot of fuzz: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258960 http://html4all.org/pipermail/list_html4all.org/2011-April/001109.html (FWIW: may be it is best to not use the 'context-menu' cursor but rather, as iCab does, use a similar 'there is an linked document for this item' cursor..) > All discoverable metadata can be made visible. The actions required > to do this > range from trivial (hovering) to hard (writing a custom scraper). But > don't confuse > "easily discoverable metadata" with visible data. See above. -- leif halvard silli
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