- From: Jonas Sicking <jonas@sicking.cc>
- Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 12:58:16 -0700
- To: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
- Cc: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>, Michael Cooper <cooper@w3.org>, Joseph Scheuhammer <clown@alum.mit.edu>, W3C WAI-XTECH <wai-xtech@w3.org>, HTMLwg <public-html@w3.org>, Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>, David Bolter <dbolter@mozilla.com>
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 11:40 PM, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote: > hi jonas, > >> Like I said, this was a patch to the code that exposes content to AT >> users. > > how does it do so? > > what mecahnism does it use to provide access /point to to structured > content only for AT users. By modifying the code that reads from the DOM and exposes the relevant information to AT. > But having read further i do think you are correct in your interpretation > > from the aria implementaion guide: > > "Note that aria-describedby may reference structured or interactive > information where users would want to be able to navigate to different > sections of content. User agents MAY provide a way for the user to > navigate to structured information referenced by aria-describedby and > assistive technology SHOULD provide such a method." > http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-implementation/#mapping_additional_relations > > still the problem being that there is no requirment on either browsers > or AT to do so and as implemented none do it. > > So in regards to the leifs original issue with the authoring guide, I > still think he is correct and that until such times that > aria-describedby is implemented in a way that matches the authoring > advice it is misleading and inaccurate. Possibly, but wouldn't we be building a better world by leaning on browser vendors to fix their aria implementations, rather than leaning on aria authors to tell them to "dumb down" their aria usage. Maybe adding a note saying that aria implementations are still lacking in this area and describe their limitation would be a good step forward. That would both tell authors about what works in current browsers, *and* exert pressure on browsers to fix their bugs. / Jonas
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