- From: Adrian Bateman <adrianba@microsoft.com>
- Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 22:42:10 +0000
- To: David Bolter <dbolter@mozilla.com>, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
- CC: HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>, Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com>, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, Cynthia Shelly <cyns@microsoft.com>, Joseph Scheuhammer <clown@alum.mit.edu>, david bolter <david.bolter@gmail.com>
Same at Microsoft for IE. On Wednesday, April 20, 2011 9:04 AM, David Bolter wrote: > No concrete, scheduled, plan at this time. > D > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Faulkner" <faulkner.steve@gmail.com> > To: "david bolter" <david.bolter@gmail.com> > Cc: "HTMLWG WG" <public-html@w3.org>, "Charles McCathieNevile" > <chaals@opera.com>, "Maciej Stachowiak" <mjs@apple.com>, "David Bolter" > <dbolter@mozilla.com>, "Adrian Bateman" <adrianba@microsoft.com>, "Cynthia > Shelly" <cyns@microsoft.com>, "Joseph Scheuhammer" <clown@alum.mit.edu> > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 11:09:58 AM > Subject: Re: device independent title attribute support in browsers > > Thanks Dave, > so just to be clear; are you aware of any concrete plans to rectify > the accessibility issues with title attribute display in firefox in > the next release? Or the release after that? Or within a given time > frame? > > regards > Stevef > > On 20 April 2011 16:00, david bolter <david.bolter@gmail.com> wrote: > > I'm not optimistic about this all getting satisfactorily designed and > > implemented soon. > > > > I think we need to have a good UI design in hand. I'm adding Joseph to the > > cc list as he's thought a lot about keyboard interaction. I also think Earl > > Johnson's keyboard proposal (table 2 and 3) is probably helpful here: > > http://dev.aol.com/downloads/kbd-nav--popup-tool-bubble-022808.html > > > > How would the user move focus to the image? Would it be in the tab order? > > > > Would you want us to pursue implementing this regardless of the alt/title > > conformance decisions? > > > > Cheers, > > David > > On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 4:37 AM, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> Hi all, > >> > >> A recent decision by the HTML working group makes it conforming to > >> provide caption content for images whilst omitting the alt attribute. > >> This is problematic because while alt is designed to be presented to > >> users when the image cannot be viewed, and it is implemented as such. > >> The title attribute is for advisory information that should be > >> available to all users at any time. This is not the case and has never > >> been the case in any graphical browser. > >> > >> Can any of the representatives from browser vendors provide > >> information as to when the title attribute will be implemented so: > >> > >> * keyboard only users are aware that a title attribute is present on an > >> element? > >> * keyboard only users are able to access the title attribute content > >> on an element using the keyboard? > >> * The display of the title attribute content is configurable so that > >> users of screen magnifiers are able view title attribute content > >> within the viewport? > >> * access to title attribute content will be available on mobile and > >> touch browsers? > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> with regards > >> > >> Steve Faulkner > >> > > > > > > > > -- > with regards > > Steve Faulkner > Technical Director - TPG > > www.paciellogroup.com | www.HTML5accessibility.com | > www.twitter.com/stevefaulkner > HTML5: Techniques for providing useful text alternatives - > dev.w3.org/html5/alt-techniques/ > Web Accessibility Toolbar - www.paciellogroup.com/resources/wat-ie-about.html
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