- From: Steven Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
- Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:00:33 +0100
- To: Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>
- Cc: HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>, Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>, Cynthia Shelly <cyns@microsoft.com>
- Message-ID: <AANLkTimksRHogb-zfhv+CfA9igkyr_8Tzz_VdPeT2w-3@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Maciej, = the following have been escalated = 1. <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10450> 'Allow lists to be used as menus or tab sets' reason: role of presentation on lists was rejected by editor. rationale to be provided in change proposal 2. <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10449> 'consider allowing various command-like ARIA roles for h1-h6' reason: disagreement with editor rationale to be provided in change proposal 3. <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10448> 'Consider broadening the set of allowed roles for command elements' reason: disagreement with editor rationale to be provided in change proposal 4. <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10493> '"ARIA restricts usage of this role to one per page" is an unclear statement' reason: disagreement with editor rationale to be provided in change proposal == The following require discussion by the aria mapping sub team == 1. <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10452> 'Consider documenting attributes that map to ARIA properties in a separate table' -> RESOLVED WONTFIX (as a side note, it seems like a matter of style how the different tables are broken down, so maybe we can let this one slide) 2. <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10462> 'merge ARIA mapping tables and list' -> RESOLVED WONTFIX (again, it seems like a matter of style how the different tables are broken down, so maybe we can let this one slide) 3. <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10463> 'provide a comprehensive HTML5 to accessibility API mapping reference' -> RESOLVED WONTFIX -- note, this requests a spec change that is not reflected in the proposal 4. <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10467> 'provide headings in the WAI-ARIA section of the spec to make it easier to understand' -> RESOLVED WONTFIX (seems purely an editorial matter again; is this really important?) 5. details element -> no bug on this, but proposal authors agreed that what is in spec generally makes sense; proposal needs updating 6. <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10496> 'fix error in aria conformance checker advice' -> RESOLVED FIXED 7. <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10464> 'provide clear user friendly links to WAI-ARIA documents in the ARIA section of the spec' -> RESOLVED LATER -- editor proposes to do this later using an automatic cross-reference tool. Strikes me as reasonable. = the following are NEW BUGS= 1. conforming use of various aria attributes not specified http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10594 2. thead, tfoot and tbody conflicts in aria section http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10593 3. "h1 to h6 element that does have an hgroup ancestor" not listed in ARIA section http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10592 4. conflicting info for table element in aria section http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10591 5.Details element Focus problem http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9817 NOTE: this is not a new bug but has been added to 10066 as it relates to the <details>, <summary> mapping. On 9 September 2010 09:44, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com> wrote: > > Recently, there has been an effort (mainly by Steve Faulkner and myself) to > break down the A11Y Task Force's proposal for ARIA mappings into a set of > fine-grained bugs. The root bug for this is < > http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10066>. At the suggestion of > my fellow co-chairs, I am posting a status report on this effort. > > Summary: > > - 13 points of agreement (apparent consensus) > - 1 clear point of disagreement (escalated) > - 10 items with next action on proposal authors > - 2 items with next action on editor > - 1 item with next action on PFWG > - 1 other > > = No Action Needed; consensus found = > > <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10438> > 'math should be changed changed from no role to "math" role' > -> RESOLVED WONTFIX; A11Y TF proposal has been updated to match > > <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10439> > '<input type=file> has "button" role, but is typically a compound control' > -> RESOLVED FIXED > > <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10440> > 'menu type=context should have "menu" role' > -> RESOLVED WONTFIX; A11 TF proposal has been updated to match > > <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10441> > '<link> that represents a hyperlink should probably have no role by > default' > -> RESOLVED WONTFIX; A11 TF proposal has been updated to match > > <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10444> > 'ARIA section does not list elements that have no default role or role > restrictions' > -> RESOLVED FIXED > > <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10445> > 'Certain elements with no role should have that as a strong semantic' > -> RESOLVED FIXED > > <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10446> > 'Consider limiting the roles of certain media and plugin elements' > -> RESOLVED FIXED (partial fix, but A11Y TF proposal is already updated > for the difference) > > <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10451> > 'Consider restricting the roles allowed for the label element' > -> RESOLVED FIXED > > <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10465> > 'provide correct aria mapping and role info for the table element' > -> RESOLVED WORKSFORME > > <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10486> > 'References to "image" ARIA role should be "img"' > -> RESOLVED FIXED > > <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10487> > 'Allow radio buttons and checkboxes to be used as radio and check menu > items respectively' > -> RESOLVED FIXED > > <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10493> > '"ARIA restricts usage of this role to one per page" is an unclear > statement' > -> RESOLVED FIXED > > <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10496> > 'fix error in aria conformance checker advice' > -> RESOLVED FIXED > > > > = No Action Needed; disagreement has been escalated = > > <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8000> > 'ARIA roles added to the a element should be conforming in HTML5' > -> RESOLVED WONTFIX > > > = Next Action on Proposal Authors = > > For most of these, the editor has fully or partially rejected a portion of > the proposal, with a stated rationale. For each of these, the proposal > authors should take one of the following actions: > - If they agree with the rationale given, then please update the proposal > to match. > - If they have relevant new information which should be given fresh > consideration by the editor, then reopen the bug (but please don't > chain-reopen too many times). > - If there is a clear point of disagreement, then mark it TrackerRequest. > We can roll all these up into one tracker issue. > > <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10447> > '<output> should have a status role by default after all > -> RESOLVED FIXED -- this was reversed from the original request by > consensus of A11Y folks; needs to be updated in the A11Y TF proposal > > <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10448> > 'Consider broadening the set of allowed roles for command elements' > -> RESOLVED WONTFIX -- this seems like a philosophical difference at this > point so maybe reopening more is not the best course > > <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10449> > 'onsider allowing various command-like ARIA roles for h1-h6' > -> RESOLVED WONTFIX > > <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10450> > 'Allow lists to be used as menus or tab sets' > -> RESOLVED FIXED -- partially accepted except for presentation roles - > perhaps should be adjusted in A11Y TF proposal, or else reason for > "presentation" specifically should be given. > > <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10452> > 'Consider documenting attributes that map to ARIA properties in a separate > table' > -> RESOLVED WONTFIX (as a side note, it seems like a matter of style how > the different tables are broken down, so maybe we can let this one slide) > > <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10462> > 'merge ARIA mapping tables and list' > -> RESOLVED WONTFIX (again, it seems like a matter of style how the > different tables are broken down, so maybe we can let this one slide) > > <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10463> > 'provide a comprehensive HTML5 to accessibility API mapping reference' > -> RESOLVED WONTFIX -- note, this requests a spec change that is not > reflected in the proposal > > <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10467> > 'provide headings in the WAI-ARIA section of the spec to make it easier to > understand' > -> RESOLVED WONTFIX (seems purely an editorial matter again; is this > really important?) > > <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10494> > 'modify aria example and fix spelling; > -> RESOLVED NEEDSINFO -- partially addressed but request for additional > info > > details element > -> no bug on this, but proposal authors agreed that what is in spec > generally makes sense; proposal needs updating > > > = Next Action on Editor = > > <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10479> > 'add role=radiogroup to details element' > -> reopened; needs new response from editor > > <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10485> > 'The img element with non-empty alt should default to the img aria role' > -> reopened; needs new response from editor > > > = Next Action on PFWG = > > <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10478> > 'modify table, tr and td roles' > -> RESOLVED WONTFIX -- there seems to be a dispute over what the ARIA spec > says here and what it should say; no consensus even among PWFWG members. > -> I have submitted a comment to PFWG which sparked a thread: < > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg-comments/2010JulSep/0029.html > > > > = Other = > > <http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10464> > 'provide clear user friendly links to WAI-ARIA documents in the ARIA > section of the spec' > -> RESOLVED LATER -- editor proposes to do this later using an automatic > cross-reference tool. Strikes me as reasonable. > > > > -- with regards Steve Faulkner Technical Director - TPG Europe Director - Web Accessibility Tools Consortium www.paciellogroup.com | www.wat-c.org Web Accessibility Toolbar - http://www.paciellogroup.com/resources/wat-ie-about.html
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