- From: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
- Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:01:50 +0100
- To: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
- Cc: 'CE Whitehead' <cewcathar@hotmail.com>, www-international@w3.org, public-html@w3.org, ian@hixie.ch
It doesn't ignore any purposes. It acknowledges that http-equiv="Content-Language" has a secondary effect, that doesn't behave in a cross-browser compatible way, whenever there are multiple values in it but no @lang attribute. This is more an emphasis on the different functions of http-equiv="Content-Language" vs @lang. You have yourself documented that multiple values doesn't work in a cross-browser compatible way: http://www.w3.org/International/tests/tests-html-css/tests-language-declarations/results-language-declarations#results Providing a warning which asks authors to supply a @lang attribute whenever they use multiple values, could be of help to authors. Leif Halvard Silli Richard Ishida, Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:35:48 -0000: > I disagree, since it ignores the use of http-equiv="Content-Language" > for it's originally specified purpose to describe metadata, where two > or more languages may be appropriate regardless of whether you forgot > or remembered to declare the language of the element level content > using the lang attribute. > > RI > > ============ > Richard Ishida > Internationalization Lead > W3C (World Wide Web Consortium) > > http://www.w3.org/International/ > http://rishida.net/ > > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Leif Halvard Silli [mailto:xn--mlform-iua@målform.no] >> Sent: 12 March 2010 02:41 >> To: CE Whitehead >> Cc: www-international@w3.org; public-html@w3.org; ishida@w3.org; >> ian@hixie.ch >> Subject: Re: ISSUE-88 / Re: what's the language of a document ? >> >> CE Whitehead, Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:02:40 -0500: >>> I like Leif's solution--to use the first language specified in http >>> as the text processing language when none is specified in the html >>> tag. >> >> Perhaps this is something you could live with as well, Ian? >> >> Otherwise, if at least one more person agrees, then I will formally >> write a change proposal which permits 'http-equiv="Content-Language"' >> to contain more than one language, but only when the root element uses >> the @lang attribute. >> >> Leif H Silli >> >> >>> From: Leif Halvard Silli <> >>> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:57:09 +0100 >>>> Ian Hickson, Thu, 11 Mar 2010 07:39:08 +0000 (UTC): >>>>> On Thu, 11 Mar 2010, "Martin J. Dürst" wrote: >> .... >>>>>> As a result, the HTML5 spec best should just say that <meta http-equiv >>>>>> is used primarily as meta-information on the server side and is >>>>>> therefore in general ignored on the client side. >>>>> >>>>> It's not ignored on the client side in practice. >>> >>>> Yes it is. As long as you use the @lang attribute, then META >>>> content-langauge has no effect. Hence servers should be free to use it >>>> as they want = according to the HTTP specs. >>> >>>> So, hereby I propose a compromise solution: >>> >>>> If the HTML document *doesn't* use the @lang attribute on the root >>>> element, then the content-language pragma is forbidden from containing >>>> more than one language tag - and this language tag will also define the >>>> language of the document. >>> >>>> However, if the document does use the @lang attribute on the root >>>> element, then authors are free to use 'http-equiv="Content-Language"' >>>> for what it is meant for according to HTTP. >>> I like this solution. >> [...] >> -- >> Leif Halvard Silli >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2733 - Release Date: 03/11/10 >> 21:50:00 >
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