- From: Shelley Powers <shelley.just@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 09:07:04 -0600
- To: HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <643cc0271003090707v25d68cbcr76a9c2a34173d52@mail.gmail.com>
I've noticed in the dt/dd issue and now with Issue 66 that people are providing multiple change proposals, or introducing additional changes not necessarily reflecting on the issue at hand. These actions make it more difficult to determine exactly what the person wants, specific to the item under discussion. This goes counter to my assumption that when people write a change proposal, it's in actuality a concise argument for a specific action, and that this action is what the person prefers. There's nothing in the Decision Process that states people only need to write one change proposal, but come on folks: make a choice, take a stand, provide your best argument, and tell us what you want. In addition, and again, this is just a request, with no power or authority and based solely on my opinion: be precise. Bugs should be for specific changes (and I've been lax in this regard in the past, will do better in the future). If you're writing a change proposal for an issue, focus on the issue, not use the issue to open a doorway to an alternative universe of changes. If you're writing a counter-proposal, write it specifically to counter a proposal. If you want something new, create a new bug. Case in point is Matt May's Issue 66 change proposal[1]. It's focused on the issue, is precise, states what needs changing, and provides a rationalization for that change. Ian wrote a counter proposal[2], rejecting this change. Ian's counter-proposal is also precise, and provides a specific rationalization for not making the change. Discussions about Issue 66[3] have not always been focused, or precise. During initial discussions after Matt provided his change proposal, people talked about adding links to this accessibility document or that -- but that's not specific to this issue, which was remove a section of text related to the image alt attribute. Adding a link to an accessibility document somewhere else in the specification is a new change, and should have been reflected in a new bug. In the interest of seeking "consensus", all we did is muddy the water, and we did so without reaching the consensus that supposedly justified adding this new change. Today, when Ian provided his first change proposal, he also provided a second seeming counter-proposal[4] that talks about adding more text to the section describing how the image analysis techniques would work. Now, I haven't the foggiest which change proposal Ian wants, other than, generally, he wants to keep the text. But which text he really wants, I haven't a clue. Shelley [1] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/ImageHeuristics [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Mar/0194.html [3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Jan/0685.html [4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Mar/0195.html
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