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Re: Request for editing guidance

From: Jirka Kosek <jirka@kosek.cz>
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 10:24:46 +0200
Message-ID: <4C0F4FCE.6000304@kosek.cz>
To: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
CC: public-html@w3.org
Ian Hickson wrote:
> Other concrete examples:
> Why is ping="" out but hidden="" in?
> Why is microdata in its own draft but class="" not?

Is this supposed to be really honest question? Simply answer would be
that hidden and class were in HTML for ages, are widely used and
implemented, while ping and microdata are not widely implemented and
raise a lot of controversy.

Maybe you consider ping and microdata as non-controversial and useful
additions to HTML5 as you have been main force behind their design. But
that's not how these features are percieved at least by some part of
this WG.

I don't agree with your conclusions about W3C HTML5 draft not being
consistent/coherent/integral. I think it is completely OK to have some
parts factored out as long as there are no contradictions inside HTML5
spec itself and between HTML5 spec and separate split documents.

> Such a decision 
> mechanism will lead to a highly inconsistent, "compromise by committee" 
> spec, and is not something I'm interested in participating in.

Well but this is how standardization works. Of course it is far from
ideal, but it is still better to have one HTML5 which is not ideal from
your point of view (and from my point of view also) then to have
HicksonML, KosekML and thousands of other different markup languages
which can be used for authoring of web content with some of them
supported in some UAs.

It's good that you want to maintain the highest possible quality of
HTML5 spec, but to be honest your mail can be seen as an attempt to
question HTML5 development in W3C.

I think that all members of this WG want to serve web community by
extending and maintaining HTML in way it improves whole Web-ecosystem.
Honestly, users are not interested in disputes between W3C and WHATWG
and your "between-lines" communication which praises WHATWG really
doesn't improve situation here.

Have a nice day,


  Jirka Kosek      e-mail: jirka@kosek.cz      http://xmlguru.cz
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