- From: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
- Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:58:19 +0200
- To: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
- Cc: Bruce Lawson <brucel@opera.com>, Shelley Powers <shelleyp@burningbird.net>, HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Leif Halvard Silli, Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:45:47 +0200: > Laura Carlson, Tue, 8 Jun 2010 06:21:32 -0500: >> Hi Leif, >> >>> The >>> point that should be emphasized is that a <figure>, regardless of its >>> close or distant relationship to the rest of the page, is an entity of >>> its own. >> >> How is that different from aside? […] > Attempt on defining the difference: > > <aside> cannot be moved to another context without loosing a lot of > its original meaning. If you loose the link to the context - in any > meaning of "link" - the <aside> stops functioning as an aside. Being > "tangentially related" it *is* related and dependent on to the context. > > <figure>, while it can also "take up" meaning from the context in > which it is located, it may also be moved to another location and still > be meaningful in itself and on its own. Thus a <figure> can be dropped > into many different contexts and still be meaningful. > > To better discern <figure> from <aside>, how about *requiring* > <figure> to have a summary/caption? Because, the way I see it, unless a > <figure> has a caption, it is difficult to perceive it as an > independent entity suitable for more than one context. Next question: is it any *useful* to discern between <figure> and <aside>? I think, yes. I think an AT user e.g. might want to ask the user agent to provide an overview over all the figures a page/article has. This might be useful and interesting on its own. Whereas to ask for a list of all the <aside>s of the page/article, while it could be interesting to read all the asides, one by one, the reader needs to have a lot more context for such a rehearsal to meaningful. I mean ... an 140 character message depends a lot on the reader knowing context. (I hope I am not putting too much of my private interpretation of the word "aside" into this.) -- leif halvard silli
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