- From: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 14:27:35 +0000
- To: Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis <bhawkeslewis@googlemail.com>
- Cc: Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>, David Bolter <dbolter@mozilla.com>, Marco Zehe <marco.zehe@googlemail.com>, Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>, Cynthia Shelly <cyns@microsoft.com>
hi Ben, you wrote "Remembering the intent of the ARIA obligation is to ensure operable controls ("in order to ensure that the element is both understandable and operable"), is there any *harm* to a MUST NOT rule banning role="presentation" on the elements that HTML5 says "should" be focusable, and on any element with a tabindex attribute? That would be machine-checkable and clear." I don't think there is any harm and would support it. regards steve On 23 December 2010 10:14, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis <bhawkeslewis@googlemail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Steve Faulkner > <faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote: >> "The presentation role MAY be used on any element, but SHOULD NOT be >> used on focusable elements." > > I don't think demoting an obligation from MUST to a SHOULD on the > grounds that focusable is ambiguous fixes things. > > SHOULD be reserved for obligations that are clear but might be inapplicable. > > Given this text, it would be hard for authors to make informed > decisions about whether the SHOULD applies in their case. > > Remembering the intent of the ARIA obligation is to ensure operable > controls ("in order to ensure that the element is both > understandable and operable"), is there any *harm* to a MUST NOT rule > banning role="presentation" on the elements that HTML5 says "should" > be focusable, and on any element with a tabindex attribute? That would > be machine-checkable and clear. > > -- > Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis > -- with regards Steve Faulkner Technical Director - TPG www.paciellogroup.com | www.HTML5accessibility.com | www.twitter.com/stevefaulkner HTML5: Techniques for providing useful text alternatives - dev.w3.org/html5/alt-techniques/ Web Accessibility Toolbar - www.paciellogroup.com/resources/wat-ie-about.html
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