W3C home > Mailing lists > Public > public-html@w3.org > August 2010

Re: providing a long description using the summary and details elements.

From: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 04:08:16 +0200
To: Steven Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Cc: "HTMLWG WG" <public-html@w3.org>, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Message-ID: <20100825040816526019.216ac9df@xn--mlform-iua.no>
Leif Halvard Silli, Tue, 24 Aug 2010 18:50:18 +0200:
> Steven Faulkner, Tue, 24 Aug 2010 16:04:09 +0100:

>> it's not being used to represent an image its being used as a 
>> container for a long text alternative.
> 
> We have been here before ... The ARIA 1.0 definition of role="img" is 
> "container": “A container for a collection of elements that form an 
> image.”

Just as we discussed, Ian checked in [1] that <details> has "strong 
native semantics" as follows: [2]

]]  The aria-expanded state must be set to "true" if the element's open 
attribute is present, and must be set to "false" otherwise.  (The role 
can be changed as described in the next table, but is restricted to 
roles that use the aria-expanded state.) [[

In ARIA 1.0, an element with role="img" does use the aria-expanded 
state.  Thus, the restriction to "roles that use the aria-expanded 
state" a first seemed like a permission to use <details role="img">. 
However, same sentence also says that "[t]he role can be changed as 
described in the next table", which states:

]]  Role must be either form, group, navigation, note, or search [[

Bug 10424 has been filed: [3] to “clarify that <details> can take _all_ 
roles that use the aria-expanded
state”.

[1] http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker?from=5330&to=5331
[2] 
http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/content-models#annotations-for-assistive-technology-products-aria
[3] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10424
-- 
leif halvard silli
Received on Wednesday, 25 August 2010 02:08:55 GMT

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.2.0+W3C-0.50 : Wednesday, 25 August 2010 02:09:00 GMT