- From: Brendan Eich <brendan@mozilla.com>
- Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 12:35:38 -0700
- To: Jonas Sicking <jonas@sicking.cc>, Cameron McCormack <cam@mcc.id.au>
- Cc: Anne van Kesteren <annevk@opera.com>, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, es-discuss Steen <es-discuss@mozilla.org>, HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>, public-webapps@w3.org
On Sep 25, 2009, at 12:08 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Brendan Eich <brendan@mozilla.com> > wrote: >> My positions are: >> >> 1. WebIDL, the bird in the hand (I agree with Sam: go invent >> something >> better, come back when you're done). >> >> 2. Don't keep perpetuating catchall patterns, they are confusing for >> developers and costly for implementors and static analysis tools, >> even if >> implementable in some future ES edition. >> >> 3. Don't care. > > Regarding 2. How do you feel about index accessors? I.e. for example > you can do: > > myNode.children[5] > > which returns the same as > > myNode.children.item(5) > > This seems equally impossible to implement in ECMAScript, but is > something that I think is helpful to authors so not something that I > want to stop adding to new interfaces. Good point. I have mixed feelings, to be honest. See the ArrayLike thread on es-discuss: https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/es-discuss/2009-May/009300.html and followups. The one from Travis Leithead of Microsoft at: https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/es-discuss/2009-May/009363.html links to http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/WebIDL/#es-sequence, which has words about an "Array host object": http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/WebIDL/#dfn-array-host-object This is new and different from the legacy collection/nodelist stuff, which we can't change. Is it the new-model solution for index accessors, or are you still wanting to make live "tree cursors" with indexed getter and setter catchalls? The live tree cursors always seemed like a mixed bag at best. Folks want to use Array generic methods on them, and sometimes find the liveness a problem. I've not heard anyone saying the liveness was a crucial win. /be
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