- From: Jim Jewett <jimjjewett@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 00:25:59 -0400
- To: HTML WG Public List <public-html@w3.org>
Smylers wrote: > That doesn't use any particular mark-up to convey which are speakers to > readers; that can be inferred by being the text at the start of each > bullet point before the colon. That seems pretty visual. > Users don't seem to be inconvenienced by > browsers not knowing that those parts of the text are the speakers (any > more than they don't know which words in the text are adverbs, or which > have their roots in Latin). If the dialog is being listened to (as opposed to read), then it is much better to simply hear a switch in voices instead of hearing a character's name and a pause. >> ... while obstinately refusing the accept that the existing practice >> of marking up cited people with the <cite> element is a viable option. > As defined by HTML5, a user agent can treat the contents of a <cite> > element as being the title of a work; if <cite> is expanded to do two > distinct things (both titles of works and conversation speakers) ... Why is it important to note that something is a title? House styling (or common print conventions) often require slight differences, but that is also true of ship names; <span> is adequate and <i class=title> more so. The semantic purpose of a citation is an appeal to authority, or a reference to the original source in case readers want to dig deeper. Normally, that original source will be a written work, but not always. Citations to "Personal Communications" may not have a written original. Aphorisms are typically attributed to the author, rather than to a collection in which they appeared. A quick search just turned up both: "If you can't say anything nice, sit next to me." Alice Roosevelt Longworth ( 1884-1980). and "If you can't, say anything nice ... sit next to me." (Dorothy Parker) Obviously, you can argue about the *correct* attribution of the quote, but the speakers' names are pretty clearly citations, and also clearly not linked to specific independently titled speeches or publications. -jJ
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