- From: Martin Kliehm <martin.kliehm@namics.com>
- Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 18:29:12 +0200
- To: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
- CC: HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>
Leif, thanks for the feedback. Leif Halvard Silli wrote: > Martin Kliehm On 09-09-03 17.18: >>> Quotation punctuation (such as quotation marks) must not appear >>> immediately before, after, or inside q elements; they will be >>> inserted into the rendering by the user agent. >>> >>> I think this could be phrased less ambiguous along the line of this: > > ambiguous = open to or having several possible meanings or > interpretations; [1] > > I would say a change from MUST to SHOULD is not related to ambiguity. I totally agree. The ambiguity is not the use of "MUST" or "SHOULD", but that the current spec doesn't clarify that *authors* shouldn't use quotation marks. That the wording currently doesn't use the keywords "MUST" or "SHOULD" is just a minor side issue. >>> Authors SHOULD not use quotation punctuation (such as quotation >>> marks) immediately before, after, or inside q elements, because user >>> agents MUST insert them into the rendering, unless the default >>> rendering is overridden by CSS. > > Does this mean that authors *may* add quotation punctuation, provided > they disable the automatic quoting via CSS? If so, then I support this > change. Yes, that was my intention. But as I said, somebody with more experience in writing specs should polish it. > I will note that I have the same problem with <dialog> and also with > <dl>: May one do <dt>Him:</dt> ? Or should one do <dt>Him</dt>? > > I think the logical answer for DL/DIALOG is that both should be > possible, and thus ditto for <q>. I'd suggest to file a separate bug on that.[1] Internationalization should be respected here, so a colon in some languages could be space-colon in French or something completely different in Japanese. > I would suggest adding > > unless the default rendering is overridden by CSS > > so as to make it more congruent with what you said about <q>. Excellent idea, I'll add it in the bug report. Cheers, Martin [1] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/enter_bug.cgi?product=HTML%20WG
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