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- Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:17:45 +0000
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http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8264
Michael(tm) Smith <mike@w3.org> changed:
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--- Comment #1 from Michael(tm) Smith <mike@w3.org> 2009-11-12 05:17:44 ---
quoting Larry Masinter:
> To understand the web, a reader will need to be familiar with other documents
> which establish terminology that this specification disagrees with. The
> documents describing URIs and HTTP are not just "authoritative documents",
> they're the actual documents that are also necessary to read and understand how
> the web works. Defining and using different and inconsistent terminology is
> very confusing, and leads to the specification being unclear about essential
> processes. The result is also at odds with reality (since some resources have
> no representation and content-negotiated resources may have many).
>
> RFC 3986 section 1.2.2 gives an overview of the relationship between
> "resource" and "representation" as well as "retrieval".
>
> When URIs are used within information retrieval systems to identify
> sources of information, the most common form of URI dereference is
> "retrieval": making use of a URI in order to retrieve a
> representation of its associated resource. A "representation" is a
> sequence of octets, along with representation metadata describing
> those octets, that constitutes a record of the state of the resource
> at the time when the representation is generated. Retrieval is
> achieved by a process that might include using the URI as a cache key
> to check for a locally cached representation, resolution of the URI
> to determine an appropriate access mechanism (if any), and
> dereference of the URI for the sake of applying a retrieval
> operation. Depending on the protocols used to perform the retrieval,
> additional information might be supplied about the resource (resource
> metadata) and its relation to other resources.
>
> This terminology is used and expanded in
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-httpbis-p1-messaging.
>
>
> CHANGE PROPOSAL:
>
> The editorial changes are, unfortunately, extensive, and will require looking
> at every use of "resource" and "file", as well as "fetch" and "fetching".
>
> To start with section 2.1, "resources", change this to reference RFC 3986 and
> define "resources, representations, and retrieval".
>
> Align the definitions with the HTTP specification.
>
> (there are other definitions which also need alignment, including MIME type,
> content type; do those need separate bug reports?)
>
[no comment; just repeating description in order to get it echoed to
public-html]
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