- From: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
- Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:25:20 -0600
- To: Shelley Powers <shelley.just@gmail.com>
- Cc: Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>, Anne van Kesteren <annevk@opera.com>, HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>
Hi Shelley, > I think I missed the supportive IRC comments. Too bad, I would have > liked to see these. Sorry, that was a typo. It should have read unsupportive IRC comments. > Forgive my bluntness, but this was less about procedure and more about > the divisive politics that has marred any effort of this group. I don’t know if discussing the subject of divisive politics in this venue would be productive. I will leave that to the Chairs' judgment as to if they want to lead a discussion on that topic. >> Shelley, as the pioneer in this, your insight on process improvement >> would be most valuable going forward in establishing a clear procedure >> for reviewing as well as a favorable communication environment. Do you >> have suggestions? What could be improved? > > Thank you for your kind words, Laura, but I don't have anything > particularly new or innovative to add to this debate. Oh but you do, Shelley. > As it was, the group had something to discuss with the MathML at the > meeting. If we had sent the comments after, most of the discussion at > the meeting probably have revolved around, "Can we expect comments > from the HTML WG?" This is true. Thank you for pointing out that very important consequence of your hard work. > The only intention with the MathML comments was to ensure that > _something_ came from this group to the Math WG: both as a sign of > respect for the Math WG accomplishment, and hopefully provide some > useful feedback. Yes, those are two very positives outcomes of your efforts. > As for going forward: > > -Provide a calendar of commitments that don't fit into the issue > tracker that would help keep people informed of what deliverable is > due when. Then it's up to the members to ensure they have time to > respond if they're interested. > > -Add the notes to the bottom of the comments emails, as per Sam's note. > > -Support some minimum 72 hour window, as minimum for comments. Note, > though, that there are times when supporting a minimum length of time > could mean nothing is delivered. This group has to determine which is > worse. > > -We could also establish rules about when such deliveries aren't made, > but I find that arbitrary. TPAC comes once a year, and if we stress > holiday times -- which holidays? This is an international group, from > many countries and faiths. All excellent suggestions, which I hope, will be taken seriously and incorporated into a new procedure. Thank you Shelley. Best Regards, Laura -- Laura L. Carlson
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