- From: Joe D Williams <joedwil@earthlink.net>
- Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 15:36:08 -0800
- To: "Julian Reschke" <julian.reschke@gmx.de>, "Anne van Kesteren" <annevk@opera.com>
- Cc: "Sam Ruby" <rubys@intertwingly.net>, "Laura Carlson" <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>, "HTMLWG WG" <public-html@w3.org>, "Shelley Powers" <shelley.just@gmail.com>, "Paul Cotton" <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>, "Maciej Stachowiak" <mjs@apple.com>
Subject: Re: the MathML comments >>> As this is something that I see us doing again, and without >>> further discussing what was said previously, can we agree on a >>> simple factual statement that we accompany such responses going >>> forward, such as: >>> >>> "These comments were collected and reviewed by the working group, >>> but were not formally assessed for consensus." >> >> ... I think most people in the room hadn't had a chance yet to look >> at the comments but they were already submitted to the Math WG on >> behalf of the >> HTML WG. It was quite confusing. > > ...furthermore, when we started to discuss this, Joe, who would have > been able to provide some insight into what was going on, wasn't in > the room yet (and we didn't realize until later that he participated > in generating the feedback). Since I went off line before Shelley had totally finished (Sorry Shelley) and didn't really even think too deep about questions or comments about the comments. And then I was a bit late for the start of the meeting. As I said in the review, I like the spec better every time and it looks like it should work. BiDi, bidirectionality, and it seems OK to me. The idea is that the author should be able to specifly directionality per item (like a sequence of numerals in a number vs. symbols) within a run rather than only globally. As if you were reading "My name is Joe" from right to left but wanted to keep the name as written in native, then it would be "Joe si eman yM". If that is basically correct, then the background info in the spec, I think, describes it OK for me to get the drift of that is supposed to happen. But I did not test. Basic text does not need bidi ever for needed effects(?) With this, MathML does better bidi than HTML (or X3D) di text; haven't checked SVG.. Shelley, from the live comments at the meeting, instead of using the borrowed html ns color attr, it should be recommended to use CSS. I kind of got the idea that the spec was trying to recommend CSS usage without actually stating it by direct reference to CSS. So the color is from the html ns which includes the CSS color property, so using CSS color:<colorname>;.per element should work. Sam > Would a set of rules, perhaps even these ones, have helped in this context? As I age I think mostly, always wait 72 hours before doing anything. I hope this all helped advance MathML and the WG process. > > So apologies for the confusion, in particular to the MathML people. > > BR, Julian > Me too. Thanks and Best Regards, Joe
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