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X3D+HTML5 talk presented to HTML5 working group today

From: Don Brutzman <brutzman@nps.edu>
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:19:18 -0800
Message-ID: <4AF476B6.4080208@nps.edu>
To: X3D Graphics public mailing list <x3d-public@web3d.org>
CC: Johannes Behr <johannes.behr@igd.fraunhofer.de>, public-html@w3.org
Our X3D+HTML5 talk was presented to the HTML5 working group today.
http://www.web3d.org/x3d/wiki/index.php/X3D_and_HTML5_Summary
http://web3d.org/x3d/presentations/X3D+HTML5.W3cTpac-20091106.pdf

There were about a dozen people in the room including 2 of the
HTML5 cochairs plus leaders of the MathML and SVG working groups.
John Stewart showed the X3DOM demos and Joe Williams also made
several good points.  The HTML5 folks were very generous in giving
us an hour to present and show demos. The talk was well received
with good discussion and feedback afterward.

We noted that our list of TODO items was way smaller than when we
first started six months ago.  A lot of things have been figured out.
The X-Freedom X3DOM capability produced by Johannes and his team was
totally compelling and helps make many issues clear.  Thanks Fraunhofer!

Feedback comments:

- ask HTML5 editor Ian Hickson why HTML5 Section 13 (which referenced X3D)
	was removed without discussion.  Message sent, cc: public-html.

- cochair Sam Ruby was able to run the demos on his system without problem.
	He gave us several steps for looking into how to handle embedded
	X3D using HTML syntax (as opposed to XHTML XML-based syntax):
	-- Uppercase/lowercase naming
	-- List of void (singleton) elements
	-- Achieving unambiguous DOM integration
	-- etc.  If we pursue this thoroughly, it would really help X3D
	rise to the level of being compatible with any HTML encoding.

- Let's make more examples demonstrating event-passing via DOM for
	X3D + HTML5 + SVG + MathML

Further feedback, improvements or corrections from those attending is welcome.

	HTML syntax:
	http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#syntax

	XHTML (XML) syntax:
	http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#the-xhtml-syntax

Next Tuesday 8-9 am is our regular weekly X3D+HTML5 teleconference.
We will review these steps and hopefully craft a website announcement.
Again thanks for all contributions that have gotten us to this point.

all the best, Don
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