- From: Larry Masinter <masinter@adobe.com>
- Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 11:33:20 -0700
- To: Larry Masinter <masinter@adobe.com>, Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com>, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>
- CC: HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>
Sorry, mail hiccup; I missed the Sam/Maciej discussion of the Design Principles next steps. I changed the email subject line since we're talking about them and not about the minutes. I'm sorry I didn't do that in some previous email about Document Title. My main problem with the current Design Principles document is the Abstract's assertion: " This document describes the set of guiding principles used by the HTML Working Group for the development of HTML5." since several other design principles also seem to be in operation, and it seems that the ones that have been applied were followed inconsistently. If we continue to work on a document with that Abstract, I would want the body of the document to match the actual design principles used. Looking at the 11/07 ballot: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/wdhdp/results some of the comments indicated that while the voter agreed to publishing a working draft, there were open issues that would need to be resolved in the future; I haven't scoured the minutes or mail list to discover whether these objections were discussed. Removing the examples would do little to improve the correspondence between the published Design Principles and the ones actually used, so I would oppose such an edit as counter-productive. Maciej wrote: > So, I would object to publishing a version that says the group has no > plans to take the document further, until and unless we have clear > consensus on that point. I don't think the process allows an editor of a document to delay meeting the heartbeat requirement. One way or another, we need to focus on getting documents out for which the working group has agreement, even if it is an agreement-to-disagree. To offer a positive suggestion which might allow us to make progress, I suggest changing the title of the document to be: "Some Design Principles Guiding HTML Development" I suggest an Abstract/Introduction: "This document describes some of the Design Principles used in discussions of the development of HTML5. The principles offer guidance for the design of HTML in the areas of compatibility, utility and interoperability. There was substantial agreement on most of these design principles, although some difference of opinions remain. In particular, there were some objections that some of the examples unnecessarily bias support for particular putative HTML 5 features or element. Further work on the Design Principles was deferred so the Working Group could focus on the contents of the technical work rather than continuing to debate the Design Principles themselves." With such a change (or something to similar effect) to the title/abstract, I would favor publication of the document as a Working Group Note. Larry -- http://larry.masinter.net
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